<html><div style='background-color:'><DIV> <P>See Lenin on the component parts of Marxism.  In this case, the philosophy of Marxism is dialectical materialism.  Materialism postulates no god, ie spiritual essence outside the material universe.  Religions, each in their own way, posulate a spiritual world separate and prior to the material universe.  To take a "maybe" position is agnosticism, which Lenin compares to the Social Democracy.  Should the working class take political power into its own hands?  Maybe or maybe not?  </P></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>From: Doug Henwood <DHENWOOD@PANIX.COM> <DIV></DIV>>Reply-To: lbo-talk@lbo-talk.org <DIV></DIV>>To: lbo-talk@lbo-talk.org <DIV></DIV>>Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] Ambigious Doug <DIV></DIV>>Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 09:28:58 -0400 <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>>R wrote: <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>>>time to get off the fence, doug. ;-) or is it "out of the <DIV></DIV>>>fires"? <DIV></DIV>>> <DIV></DIV>>>let me immodestly offer myself as a role model. when the question <DIV></DIV>>>of is there or isn't there a god comes up, my response is "who <DIV></DIV>>>gives a shit?" now that's what i call pretty definitive. ;-) <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>>Well, I think it's a pretty important question, but one neither I <DIV></DIV>>nor any other human could ever answer. <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>>Doug <DIV></DIV>>___________________________________ <DIV></DIV>>http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/mailman/listinfo/lbo-talk <DIV></DIV></div><br clear=all><hr>Add photos to your messages with <a href="http://g.msn.com/8HMVENUS/2749??PS=">MSN 8. </a> Get 2 months FREE*.</html>