<HTML>In a message dated 8/28/2003 4:26:03 AM GMT Daylight Time, cbcox@ilstu.edu writes: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">>He [Dean] strongly opposed the war in Iraq, but committed to not >leaving Iraq in a mess and involving the UN. No possible policy that leaves a foreign army in Iraq can lead to other than disaster. But although "No U.N. involvement, U.S. Out" 'ought' to be one of the core slogans of the anti-war movement, it will be a while (and many 10s or 100s of thousands of deaths) before a movement can began to coalesce around that. I think it important for at least a few of us to keep saying that however. </BLOCKQUOTE> 10's or 100's of thousands of deaths? and why are we depending on Presidential candidates to be sqare about that? I'd be happy if major media ever mentioned Iraqi casualties lost to their "liberation." My vote: US OUT yesterday! Send in the UN. Let the UN assess reparations from the US for 12 years of hysteria and stupidity preceded by blind acqiescence and enabling of atrocities. What the hell. Maybe open reconstruction projects to competitive bidding and see if Halliburton et al are up to the free market. Somehow I don't think that's going to get me elected President, though hupothetically candidates MIGHT come around if enough of the public drags them that way. DoreneC </HTML>