<DIV>Corrol,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Have you ever read A. J. Polan's "Lenin and the end of politics"? As a matter of fact has anyone on this list read this work? Put me off anything anybody has to say good about Valodia. Carrol Cox <cbcox@ilstu.edu> wrote:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"> uvj@vsnl.com wrote: > > Carrol Cox wrote: > > > I realize no one on lbo-talk would agree with Kipling's argument as > > expressed a century ago. But whatever the intentions of those who hope > > that the u.s. government might do "something good" in Iraq, in practice > > that position is a repetition in new dress of Kipling's world view. > > Surely there are people on this list and elsewhere who believe in the "civilizing mission" of "Marxism-Leninism" in the "Third world". > You mean Mao, Ho, Cabral, Sandino, et al all came from Europe? And here for decades I had been suffering from the delusion that one of my favorite marxists, Amilcar Cabral, was an African. There is an old chestnut of red-baiting: Wherever you find them, Communists came from someplace else. I don't know whether there are any "marxist-leninists" on this list or not. I'm a Marxist who believes that Lenin was a great Marxist and one from whom we can learn, but I'm not a "Marxist-Leninist," and haven't called myself that for a couple decades. It's one of the inheritances from the Third International that we can do without. Carrol > Ulhas ___________________________________ http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/mailman/listinfo/lbo-talk</BLOCKQUOTE><hr SIZE=1> Do you Yahoo!? <a href="http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=10469/*http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com">Yahoo! SiteBuilder</a> - Free, easy-to-use web site design software