[lbo-talk] "Unsuccesful" Insurgencies: A Right Wing Blogger Shoots Himself In the Foot

Michael Pugliese michael098762001 at earthlink.net
Tue Apr 13 14:18:22 PDT 2004


From the Tacitus blog>...Vietnam, 1965-1968. This one tends to surprise people: the historical fact is that in the course of three years of large-unit American operations in Vietnam, the indigenous Viet Cong insurgency was almost entirely eliminated. Admittedly, this process was helped along by the VC's decision to seize urban centers and enter into open mass confrontation with the US and RVN in the Tet Offensive, thus enabling their set-piece destruction. A useful example for the present day. The war in Vietnam was thereafter continued on the communist side almost wholly through introduction of personnel and units from North Vietnam.

A bunch of books on the Vietnam War I've perused over the yrs. from across the ideological spectrum (left> Lloyd Gardner, Marilyn B. Young, neo-Trot J. Neale, "A People's History of the Vietnam War, " George T. McKahin, across to the center> Michael Lind, " Vietnam: The Necessary War, " and Right> G. Lewy, "America In Vietnam, " and anthologies like, "How North Vietnam Won The War, " and books on the Chinese and Soviet role, published by Ivan R. See pubs., " The Soviet Union and the Vietnam War, " by Ilya V. Gaiduk, ALL say the same as "Tacitus." It has been too many yrs. since I read in college, in a class taught by a cadre in the Prairie Fire Org. Comm., the official Vietnamese acct. published after the war or the acct. by Italian journalist, T. Tirzani, " http://squawk.ca/lbo-talk/0306/2123.html http://www.palgrave-usa.com/catalogue/index.asp?isbn=0312295278 Why The North Won The Vietnam War

What a wonderful collection! The scholars involved define the field and the topics are original. My whole analysis of the war has been refined by the essays in this book. It will be indispensable to those of us working on Vietnam for a long time to come." --Robert Buzzanco, University of Houston http://vi.uh.edu/pages/buzzmat/Vietnam.htm William Duiker, Ho Chi Minh. New York: Hyperion, 2000. xix, 695 pp. By far the best biography of the man so far.

(And then we can imprison leading officials of the NLF in Re-Education Camps Like Doan Van Toai. See, Troung Nhu Tang, with David Chanoff and Doan Van Toai, A Vietcong Memoir (1985) For the immediate aftermath of the Victory (which again, for those that might kneejerk, plz. don't assume I was ever for the USG aggression against Vietnam that killed 2.8 million, thank you ;-) see acct. by French journalist, "April Spring, " and, "Gai Phong!, " by Tirazno Tirzani, an Italian journalist, that Rob called a social democrat, if memory serves, a book I read in tha class led by Rob McBride @ UCSC, then in the Pririe Fire Organizing Committee, the aboveground support group for the remnants of the Weather Underground. Rob had a few scenes in the documentary on the Madioson, WI. anti-war movement.

http://hubcap.clemson.edu/~eemoise/bibliography.html Edwin E. Moïse Vietnam War Bibliography (Moise is Gabriel Kolko's main source on the contentious issue of the North Vietnamese land reform of the 50's. Edwin E. Moise, "Land Reform and Land Reform Errors in North Vietnam ,"

PDF]AMERICA AND VIETNAM, 1945-1975 File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML ... 228-256 (29 pages.) **#4 Edwin E. Moise, "Land Reform and Land Reform Errors in North Vietnam ," Pacific ... (42 pages) David Chanoff and Doan van Toai, Vietnam: A ... http://icg.harvard.edu/~hsb68/syllabus/hsb68syllabus.pdf

Michael Lind in his odious, "Vietnam: The Necessay War, " says, even CP village leaders and officials that had say, two cows, were kulaks and you know how counter-revolutionary having two cows can be!

http://newton.uor.edu/Departments&Programs/AsianStudiesDept/vietnam.html The Vietnam War 77 Conversations between Chinese and Foreign Leaders on the Wars in Indochina, 1964-1977 Cold War International History Project Working Paper #22, edited by Odd Arne Westad, Chen Jian, Stein Tønnesson, Nguyen Vu Tung & James G. Hershberg (PDF version) <SNIP>

Michael Pugliese



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