> >Guess he didn't check with Yoshie & Carrol first...]
>
>Doug, what on earth has Carrol done to deserve this relentless baiting?
At 5:56 PM -0500 9/3/03, Carrol Cox wrote:
>This thread wandered off in some strange directions, and as I reread the
>posts today I thought it would be worthwhile to give some of the
>statements in it a different context.
>
>The White Man's Burden
>By Rudyard Kipling
>
>Take up the White Man's burden--
> Send forth the best ye breed--
At 11:17 AM -0500 9/6/03, Carrol Cox wrote:
>[The mail server for incoming mail at isu is still out, so it will be
>awhile before I can see any responses to this or my preceding post.]
>
>Below I copy posts exchanged recently on the discussion maillist of the
>Bloomington/Normal Citizens for Peace and Justice (BNCPJ). It begins
>with a forwarding of a call put out by the Chicago Coalition Against War
>& Racism, and one of their proposed slogans for a Sept. 30 demonstration
>is "Bring the Troops Home NOW." No mention of the UN or of "cleaning up
>the mess" before "we" leave. I have suppressed the names of posters
>since I don't suppose they wrote with an international audience in mind.
>
>None of the participants in the discussion is a marxist. One is a Green
>Party organizer, the other two young faculty never involved in politics
>before.
>
>I realize no one on lbo-talk would agree with Kipling's argument as
>expressed a century ago. But whatever the intentions of those who hope
>that the u.s. government might do "something good" in Iraq, in practice
>that position is a repetition in new dress of Kipling's world view.
At 9:02 PM -0600 2/13/04, Carrol Cox wrote:
>Yes, and therefore could be trusted to make their own political
>decisions. I can't help but feel every so often that the White Man's
>Burden is figuring heavily in this debate.