[lbo-talk] Norman Geras on the morality of the just war.

[Gary?]

From: "Charles Brown" >
>. If we could find a term stronger than
> "terrorism" for U.S. conduct...
>
yes ? then we could neatly define and pigeonhole the actions and continue
with this stupid debate. We can scrabble around making up definitions and
playing word games but fuck it. The US government doesn't give a shit about
the Iraqis but what your missing is the US govnmt doesn't give a shit about
it's citizens either. There is a small elite who are not in harms way and
are making a bundle,this war is grunt on grunt and won't affect the outcome
of the last Friends episode If the Bush's are so close to the Suadi royal
family why didn't they influence the Saudis to become the beacon of modern
democracy in the middle east, why ,after liberating Kuwait didn't we
'enforce' democracy there. Speaking of which Iraq has a stronger claim to
Kuwait than jews have to Palestine. Osama isn't a mean evil man, he's a
freedom fighter who has seen how the US wages wars and has retaliated in his
own time and place, I don't need to list the atrocities perpetrated by the
US over the years, that someone should hit back was simply a matter of time.
The rest of the world isn't anti american because they can't get cable tv,
they are anti american because they are the victims and have seen and felt
the hypocrisy and lies.
Go to Hamburg and see the memorial to those who died in the firebombings,
died, too simple and clean, melted to the sidewalks, the war was already
won, why ?? and we sit here today discussing the latest fiasco like a bunch
of fuckwits, clapping hands with glee over the latest egg on the face-tut
tut.
When the election was stolen in Florida did you' live free or die 'or just
take another burger. Is Al Gore guilty of treason in his acquiescence, why
didn't he stand and fight, or did he just show his true colours.
When the police in Miami, Philadelphia, NYC use thug tactics on peaceful
legal demonstrators what do you do, buy another T shirt?

Gary?
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