[lbo-talk] Krugman vs. O'Rilly (tm)

snit snat snitilicious at tampabay.rr.com
Sun Aug 8 17:35:07 PDT 2004


On CNBC's Tim Russert, O'Reilly likened Media Matters for America to the Ku Klux Klan

From the debate between New York Times columnist Paul Krugman and FOX News Channel host Bill O'Reilly on August 7 edition of CNBC's Tim Russert:

O'REILLY: And where'd you get that little evil quote [of O'Reilly on the June 28 Radio Factor saying that author and filmmaker Michael Moore believes America is an evil country], by the way? You don't listen to The Radio Factor.

KRUGMAN: No, but they have video [sic] clips. They have, they have the clips.

O'REILLY: Yeah, but who gave it to you?

KRUGMAN: Yeah, it is -- Media Matters.

O'REILLY: Media Matters! Oh, I see! A real objective website. Mr. Propaganda! --

KRUGMAN: Hey, wait a second, sir --

O'REILLY: You oughta take -- and do your own research, pal! And stop taking the left-wing garbage and throwing it out there for the folks!

KRUGMAN: What have they said that's false?

O'REILLY: Do your own research! That's out of context and you know it.

KRUGMAN: No, come on. It helps me. It is not. They've got the clips. You can actually listen to them --

O'REILLY: You are about the most un-objective person on the face of the earth -- Media Matters! Why don't you just call Fidel? Call him up in Havana. He'll tell you what's going on?

KRUGMAN: Oh, wonderful. Now we've got the great (inaudible) Whatever it is, it ends up being a Communist plot, you know?

O'REILLY: Oh my God! That's like me calling up some Klan operation. Why don't I call the Ku Klux Klan up and --

KRUGMAN: Here we go, here we go, here we go.

RUSSERT: Read the quote, read the quote.

[... Krugman reads the full text of O'Reilly's criticism of Moore ... http://mediamatters.org/items/200406300013]

KRUGMAN: Now I saw a film, a flawed film, a lot of things that were overstated, but I think that there were a lot of things in that film that showed that this is a guy who really does love his country. And he loves the working people of America. And if you can watch that --

O'REILLY: All right, fine. You want to think he loves his country, (inaudible). Hezbollah feels the same way that you do.

KRUGMAN: Oh, come on. Guilt by association.

O'REILLY: Come on what?!

KRUGMAN: Somebody picks it up -- somebody picks up -- you know there are, there are actual -- there are right-wing hate groups who like to quote you. Do you think that makes you guilty of everything that they do?

O'REILLY: You know what? I never call those right-wing hate groups up to get my quotes. You call the left-wing hate groups up to get your propaganda. You oughta be ashamed of yourself.

KRUGMAN: Somebody who runs a website (inaudible) compared to the Ku Klux Klan?

O'REILLY: Do your own research. Do your own research.

"We're in a fucking stagmire."

--Little Carmine, 'The Sopranos'



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