[lbo-talk] Democracy and Constitutional Rights

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Sat Aug 14 07:10:51 PDT 2004


Aristotle, however, claimed that some people are slaves by nature, see Politics 1254a22 (" . .. from the hour of their birth some are marked out for subjection, others for rule."), and that slaves and women "lacked the deliberative faculty at all." (id. at 1260a12). Plato makes the point that the actual social hierachy is arbitrary, and this point has to be covered up by a "noble lie"` (Republic 414c ff), but according to Orlando Patterson's history of freedom and slavery, this was an anomalous view and hardly widely accepted, Not that I am an expert on ancient political theory or ancient history. I should look up what de St, Croix and Finley say about this. jks

Chris Doss <lookoverhere1 at yahoo.com> wrote: That's true. Not true of earlier slavery, like in the Roman Empire. They were pretty honest back in those days. :)

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