Holland was the first capitalist country , and its current luxury of being democratically pure is bought in part with the blood of the primitive accumulation. There is some anti-immigrant sentiment there.
There has to be some place in American discourse where Cuba, Venezuela, Viet Nam are praised and held up as models to Americans. Wish it was more than a few small circles.
Castroism doesn't avow to negate fairness and due process. These have to be imbedded in the higher democracy of socialism, preserved and overcome. This is a goal, and like all of them, there is a struggle to attain this ideal in socialist countries. But the Cubans, Attorney Fidel, are aware of these issues of fairness and due process.
Yea, I was thinking the other day of a time we sat at a café in Ann Arbor discussing nuclear disarmament and danger. It is incredible to think that the cloud of the danger of nuclear war plays nothing like the role it did then. It is great that we have stepped back from the 11th hour. I often think that the fall of the SU was in part motivated by the need to step back from nuclear chicken. For some in the SU, their limited socialism in name was not worth preserving when balanced against the danger of nuclear exchange with the U.S. motivated by anti-CP, anti-Sovietism. "Why not drop the red flag from in front of the Bull ?", some may have thought.
CB
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From: andie nachgeborenen
There is a widespread assumption that if one supports markets one supports capitalsim, and indeed, capitalism at it is in the US rather than as it is, say in The Netherlands or Denmark. Also an assumption, reflected here, that support of liberal proceduralism means that one is an apologists for American politics as it is. No matter how many times one rejects these claims, they come back in a tedious manner.
Charles, you have known me for 25 years (scary thought, isn't it?). You know that I do not support or defend American politics as it is. So why do drag this bugaboo up? Do you think I will find it hard to say that I want radical change? In my case, it is largely because we fall so short of the requirements of liberalism (a view that is considered right wing only in weird circles like this --most Americans think that liberals are communists) that I strive for such changes. So let's not have this from people who know better, OK? jks