Comments on Aquinas (was '[lbo-talk] The "A" lives, apparently' and '[lbo-talk] The Argument from Design and Polytheism)'

C. G. Estabrook galliher at alexia.lis.uiuc.edu
Sat Dec 18 18:44:12 PST 2004


Not exactly. Aquinas thinks it possible that the universe could be a (temporally) infinite series of beings. It is impossible to prove philosophically that the universe had a starting point in time, he thinks.

He's interested in a different question -- not how the universe came to take its present form (a question for what we would call science), but, as Stephen Hawking put it, "You still have the question: why does the universe bother to exist? If you like, you can define God to be the answer to that question" -- and that's exactly what Aquinas does. --CGE

On Sat, 18 Dec 2004, Jon Johanning wrote:


> On Dec 17, 2004, at 6:32 PM, C. G. Estabrook wrote:
>
> > To say that we have a valid question (one with an answer) is to say
> > that God exists; for
> > what we mean by "God" is just whatever answers the question.
>
> So if the answer is "what exists exists," then "what exists" is God
> (Spinoza's position, roughly). (See my concurrent post in the Argument
> from Design and Polytheism thread.) Of course, Aquinas would reply that
> existing things of the ordinary sort, chairs, tables, plants, animals,
> humans, etc., are "contingent beings," which need a "necessary being"
> apart from them to give them their being. But there are familiar
> arguments against that position, which I shall not bother to repeat
> here, but could if you want. (I'm sure you know them as well as I do.)
>



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