[lbo-talk] The Ontology of Two Chairs (was Reich on sex & religion)

joanna bujes jbujes at covad.net
Fri Dec 31 09:44:05 PST 2004


2+2 = 4 if you count as far as four. In some cultures, everything on the other side of three is infinity. In some cultures 2 + 2 = 4 has meaning only if you know what you're adding: two apples plus two oranges ? two male rabbits + two female rabbits? etc.... The "obviousness" of our mathematics is similar to the "obviousness" of our language. Clear and precise if you speak it.

Joanna

Jon Johanning wrote:


> On Dec 30, 2004, at 11:48 PM, joanna bujes wrote:
>
>> It's hard to know what you mean by "truths of mathematics." If these
>> truths include the entities that we call numbers and that we claim to
>> be able to manipulateby analogy with how we manipulate-numbers-as
>> finite-quantities, then certainly these truths are culturally given.
>
>
> What I mean is this: is "2+2=4" true or false? If it is true, is it a
> "culturally-given truth"? If you can find a way to make it false, show
> it to me.
>
> You see, I'm a terribly simple-minded philosopher in the end.
>
> Jon Johanning // jjohanning at igc.org
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