[lbo-talk] Iraq, the left and the 'resistance' (Geras blog)

Yoshie Furuhashi furuhashi.1 at osu.edu
Thu Feb 12 06:22:53 PST 2004


Seth Ackerman sethia at speakeasy.net, Wed Feb 11 18:24:11 PST 2004:


>>In any case, for U.S. citizens to talk of supporting or not
>>supporting this or that Iraqui faction makes about as much sense as
>>proclaiming they do or do not support the presidential ambitions of
>>Franklin Pierce. This is the absolute height of armchair
>>pontificating.
>
>Well of course I see your point. But on the other hand, if people on
>this list started saying things like "you know, Pinochet is a great
>guy" or "we ought to support Tony Blair," I have a feeling you
>wouldn't see it as all so irrelevant. You'd speak up promptly and
>say where they're wrong, even though such abstract expressions of
>support obviously don't have much direct practical effect. That's
>the whole point of having a discussion like this. You say "I think
>x," I say "I think y."
>
>As for what we should *do*, by all means we have to keep organizing
>against U.S. foreign policy. But in order to organize people, you
>have to offer them some kind of analysis. Pretty soon it does become
>important what you or I think of the Iraqi resistance, because it's
>part of the analysis we're offering. If part of "our" schtick is to
>say "the Iraqi resistance is doing great stuff, hopefully it will
>get stronger," and then the resistance kills 20 people in a
>marketplace, "our" organizing loses both moral and practical effect.
>
>Seth

The problem, though, is that you and John Pilger are not in the same political organization (or coalition). If you were, you could both go to the organization's (or the coalition's) meetings, have the organization's (or coalition's) members debate what the organization's (or coalition's) position on resistance fighters in Iraq should be, and democratically decide the question by vote. Perhaps, your position would get the majority vote and become the organization's (or coalition's) position; perhaps, Pilger's would; or some other position (a compromise between yours and Pilger's or a position completely different from yours and Pilger's) would.

As of now, the word "our" doesn't apply to what you and John Pilger say or do individually. -- Yoshie

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