----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Dawson -PSU" <mdawson at pdx.edu> To: "Jay Watterworth" <watterwo at sobek.colorado.edu> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 3:03 PM Subject: Re: Gay Marriages
> Well, Kerry's a psycho who's been shagging his intern. He'll be toast
soon.
> Thanks, JFK, for whoring for Clinton against Dean and being megalomaniacal
> enough to think you could get away with Clinton's sexual shit. I now give
> Bush a 90 percent chance.
>
> Meanwhile, why should anybody take European racism as a serious argument
> against gay marriages? That's actually way more fucked up than simple
> religious fear of violating God's rules.
>
> There is no defensible argument against gay marriage.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jay Watterworth" <watterwo at sobek.colorado.edu>
> To: <psn at csf.colorado.edu>
> Cc: "socgrads" <socgrads at lists.colorado.edu>
> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 10:45 AM
> Subject: Gay Marriages
>
>
> > Thanks for all who replied to my former, mislabeled query about logical
> > arguments against gay marriages.
> >
> > My class briefly touched on gay marriages yesterday. I simply told the
> > class that I was at a loss to understand why people are opposed to it
> > because I really don't understand more than the vague religious
arguments
> > we've all heard (and I really don't understand those).
> >
> > The only new reason we could come up with is the argument apparently put
> > forward in Europe. The logic is that the "native" populations of some
> > countries are dropping so they need heterosexual unions to produce
> > children. This sounds kind of convoluted to me; they assume if gays
can't
> > marry they'll "straighten" up their act, pal up with hetros and pop for
> > kids?
> >
> > I plan on talking about this topic later in the semester, so any
insights
> > would be appreciated. Until then, I'm going to enjoy the liberals
trying
> > to explain why separate but equal (marriage versus civil unions) will
> > work. Good luck, John Kerry.
> >
> > Jay
> >
> >
> > Jay Watterworth
> > Department of Sociology
> > University of Colorado at Boulder
> >
> > Nora Ephron said (about Washington politics, but apropos here), "No
> > matter how cynical I get, I just can't keep up."
> >
> > "If music be the food of love, play on. Give me excess of that."
> > William Shakespeare, "Twelfth Night"
>