[lbo-talk] Re: Freud

Simon Huxtable jetfromgladiators at yahoo.com
Fri Feb 20 05:23:47 PST 2004


Have you actually read any Freud? It seems that the only sources you can cite are Time magazine and this pissy little article. Please, if you're going to make such an assertion, could we have some evidence? Why such hostility to Freud? Do you think belief in the unconscious is invalidated because you can't see it, like believing in ghosts and stuff?

Simon


> From: "Carl Remick" <carlremick at hotmail.com>


> >From: "Michael Dawson -PSU" <mdawson at pdx.edu>
> >
> > > What does Freud have to do with "scientific
> knowlege"?
> > >
> > > Carl
> >
> >1. As Jared Diamond notes, he shattered the idea
> that conscious thought was
> >all there is to the human psyche.
>
> Izzat so? Here's a bit more of that Todd Dufresne
> LA Times article I cited
> initially:
>
> "Then there is the theory of the unconscious, which
> has also seen better
> days. We all agree that Freud did not 'discover' the
> unconscious, and are
> sophisticated enough to see that it has a history
> that long predates him: as
> the devil that possessed Christians; as the
> mesmerism and hypnosis that
> invoked the split, double and multiple personalities
> of the 18th and 19th
> centuries; and as the theme of 'doubling' that
> informed much Victorian
> literature and, today, still informs the dumbest
> plot lines in Hollywood and
> in psychotherapy.
>
> "Now connect the dots. In each iteration of the
> unconscious, some anointed
> medium — priest, quack or analyst — claims special
> access to the darkest,
> scariest reaches of our minds. For a certain price,
> he or she can cure you
> of this demon...."
>
>
<http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-dufresne18feb18,1,5672071.story?coll=la-news-comment-opinions>
>
> And no, there's nothing "scientific" about Freud's
> own particular
> wooly-minded notions of the unconscious. He was
> truly a charlatan's
> charlatan.
>
> Carl
>
>

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