[lbo-talk] RE: Where do republican presidents come from

Robert D. Day rdday at mchsi.com
Wed Feb 25 16:25:04 PST 2004


I think what Carrol may be getting at (and I'm sure he'll tell us if I'm mistaken) is that Democrats, in their failure to win any mass support and seriously pursue basic social democracy, provide no real reason for them to keep existing. The voting public has had no great Democratic achievements to point to in the past 30ish years - unlike FDR and the New Deal, which ensured Democratic hegemony for most of a generation. I remember reading somewhere that one of the reasons Newt Gingrich was so terrified of the Clintonian health care scheme was not for its alleged creeping socialism, but that it would potentially keep Democrats in the lead in Washington for much of the foreseeable future. The Democrats' health care failure paved the way for the 1994 GOP onslaught, just as the Clinton-Gore business-as-usual record made a GW Bush presidency seem like a distinct possibility.

As Democrats move further and further to the right, the Republicans feel less inhibited about their own even further right-wing ambitions, and the whole idea of social democracy - which should be the Democrats' life blood - gets forgotten. The absence of a compelling Democratic vision provides for the presence of brutish but seductive right-wing ascendancy.

--- Robert D. Day

----- Original Message ----- From: "joanna bujes" <jbujes at covad.net> To: <lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 4:13 PM Subject: [lbo-talk] RE: Where do republican presidents come from

Carrol: "If this list is still around when a _really_ obnoxious Republican is elected in 2012 to follow a diastrous second term by Kerry, someone might forward this to the list at that time. (I don't anticipate 8 more active years for myself.)"

Carrol, this is the silliest argument you've ever made on LBO

Joanna

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