[lbo-talk] re: Indology in Digest 2221

Michael Pugliese debsian at pacbell.net
Mon Jan 19 15:39:05 PST 2004


On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 16:48:27 -0500, Todd Archer <todda39 at hotmail.com> wrote:


> Hari said:
>
>> To ask such a thing exposes you beyond measure. I believe that you have
>> surely not understood the essence of proletarian internationalism.
>
> So what is it, Hari?
>
> Curious Todd

Heh ;-) Is this, "Proletarian internationalism. " ??? http://www.magnumphotos.com/c/htm/FramerT_MAG.aspx?V=CDocT&E=2TYRYDI3THVN&DT=ALB http://www.magnumphotos.com/c/htm/CDocZ_MAG.aspx?o=&DT=ALB&E=2TYRYDI3THVN&Pass=&Total=11&Pic=5&SubE=2S5RYDZ3NH@3

(The Red Army troops from the USSR were told there was a "fascist coup, " occuring, rather than a democratization of Czechoslovak socialism, in process. Photos by Josef Koudelka, who photographed the Warsaw Pact invasion of Czechoslovakia in '68. See, for more of his work, "Gypsies, " from Aperture.

I like Hari the Hoxha fan, we agree that the Kosovars and Bosnians/Bosniaks, following Comrade Lenin on the right of nations to self- determination, more than met the required tests (if I am not mistaken, he said he wasn't a maoist, he is on another fave list o' mine, leftist_trainspotters at yahoogroups.com , we are always full of the lastest sectariana on M-L's, socdems, anarchists and other lefties, whether solid or looony or a little o' both...) but, he tends toward M-L orthodoxy. See the website of his group, Alliance, http://harikumar.brinkster.net/INDEXPAGES/NoName01.html (Doug, take note of the Stalin Society ref. below. Charles Brown, take note of this webpg. from Hari's group, on your main man, Comrade Dimitrov, http://www.allianceml.com/AllianceIssues/ALLIANCE46_RepliesReDimitrov.html ) MIM Notes 'sez about his folks, http://www.etext.org/Politics/MIM/wim/wyl/hoxha.html http://www.etext.org/Politics/MIM/wim/wyl/text.php?mimfile=criticizebland.txt ("Bill Bland, Alliance, Hari Kumar: Kremlinologists, not scientific communists.")
> ..."In shades of splintering reminiscent of Trotskyism, their article on
> the Black Nation thesis says there was a plot to make Stalin responsible
> for it when he was not!"
Heh, "shades of splitting, " I love that bit o' phrasing! All the below from http://www22.brinkster.com/harikumar/ 1. Alliance Marxist-Leninist (North America), "UPON THE CURRENT SITUATION, UNITY, AND IDEOLOGY - AN OPEN LETTER TO LUDO MARTENS; 'PARTI DU TRAVAIL' BELGIUM" 2. Bill Bland, "Class Struggles in China" 3. Bill Bland, "The Restoration of Capitalism in the Soviet Union" 4. Proletarian Path, "AN INITIAL ASSESSMENT: W.B. BLAND'S POLITICAL LEGACY" 5. "More on the Fifth Column in the Stalin Society"

http://www.findarticles.com/cf_dls/m0FQP/4591_131/88992478/p1/article.jhtml "Comrades up in arms: Stalin still exerts a strange hold over some, not least Arthur Scargill. Johann Hari attends a Stalin Society meeting, " from the UK left weekly, The New Statesman.

Compass No 119, July 1995; 17 pages. Heresy in the Stalin Society.

Compass No 116; January 1995; 35 pages More on the fifth column in the Stalin Society.

http://www.etext.org/Politics/Committee.Sol.Peru/English/rim-fraud.html
> ..."A founding member of The Stalin Society was recently expelled by the
> Steering Committee acting as provided for by the Society's Constitution.
> The charges levelled against this individual member are: to have insulted
> the Society and various of its members, including leading comrades, by
> means of defamatory publications. Particular objection was taken to his
> charges that the Committee is now a tool of a 'Fifth Column'. And that
> this '..... has caused the society to degenerate into a propaganda organ
> for the dissemination of revisionist ideas'. Moreover, this individual
> accuses the present leaders and other well-known members of placing
> 'barriers between the Stalin Society and tens of thousands of honest
> potential members."
<SNIP> -- Michael Pugliese


>From "Marx at the Millenium, " by Cyril Smith, Pluto Press. Footnote 5, pg.
178, "...The Three Priciples of Democratic Centralism...by Don Cuckson: 1 Father Knows Best 2 Not in front of the children 3 Keep it in the family.



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