[lbo-talk] When dissidents change their minds (Zinoviev)

Chris Doss lookoverhere1 at yahoo.com
Thu Jul 1 03:20:11 PDT 2004


If people don't know, Zinoviev was author of the Yawning Heights and Homo Sovieticus, a former Cold War dissident exiled from the Soviet Union and went gonzo anti-Communist.
 
pravda.ru
June 30, 2004
Triumphant vengeance
Philosopher Alexander Zinoviev considers that the West regained its power
thanks to Russia's defeat

Everything has been calculated in today's modern world. It isn"t difficult
to picture our country as a firm. Who's going to calculate our country's
damages today? This will be the topic of our discussion with Doctor of
Philosophy Alexander Zinoviev who is also an expert of the West.

-Alexander Alexandrovich, neither one of modern dictionaries has such term
as "Russophobia". Does it mean that the subject does not exist?

-The subject does exist, and it is quite important these days. It"s got
deep historic roots. But I am a sociologist; I have always been interested
in purely sociological aspects. I became interested in the subject after my
visit to the West I 1978. There, I could spot such phenomenon practically
everywhere. Russophobia was everywhere: in mass media, in scientific
circles, on a day-to-day basis. I posed myself a reasonable question: Why
is this happening?

-And?

-And now I am aware of the answer. It's all in the fight, the fight that"s
been going on for the entire XX century. Western world was fighting against
Communism. Historically it so happened that Russians became very much
connected with communist ideas and their practices. Western world in turn,
views all Russians as hereditary communists. They even began to falsify our
past, especially Soviet reality. The way it was interpreted was pathetic. I
used to write a lot about it. Interestingly, but even after the collapse of
the soviet empire, those falsifications of historic data of Russian
peoples, of Russian character did not cease to exist.

The West treated me as though I was a anti-Communist and an anti-Soviet
(even though I regarded myself as neither one). That is why I had access to
everything that was done in sovietological centers and secret services
there. It was then that I discovered that the governing western elite (both
political and ideological) had developed a long-term program, which
included the collapse of the soviet socialist regime and liquidation of
communism in the first place. That wasn"t all however. One of their major
tasks was also aimed at bringing Russia down so that the country will never
be able to recover fully and rise to its initial position of the great
superpower.

-I see. But what exactly do you mean by "Program"? Perhaps, you presume
that everything has already been predestined for us?

-As far as the program is concerned, even if we were to treat my statements
about this program as merely hypothetical, there exist facts to support it.
In fact, you can see them everywhere. Another program-maximum entails
complete liquidation of the Russian peoples from world history.

-What do you mean? How?

-What makes you so surprised? After all, it has been revealed that some
plans entailed reduction of the Russian population to 50 millions. And M.
Thatcher, by the way, used to note that even 15 million people will be
enough to develop Russia for the sake of the West.

Today, based on contemporary social laws, a country needs to have a minimum
of 300 million residents in order to maintain its sovereignty. Why do you
think Europeans suddenly began to unite? It is important to consider the
following circumstance. The West facilitates politics of genocide in
regards to Russians. Unfortunately, many of our fellow countrymen are on
their side.

Western world has already developed strategic plans to establish its
domination, to westernize the whole world. Obviously, we remain enemies for
the western world today because Russians differ significantly from
Westerners in terms of their characters and their historical fate. Western
way of life will never be fully adopted in Russia. In the West, they not
only have bad attitude towards our "hereditary inclination" towards
communism, but towards the Russian-factor as is/ what does it mean? Thing
is, Russians are extremely gifted people in a variety of subjects. In just
70 years, we were able to contribute so much to the world"s culture that no
other nation ever did. And in such difficult times! During my stay in the
West, I noticed that the country was fearful of the fact that the Soviet
Union will continue to develop and strengthen.

Russians are very talented people, let me repeat myself. However, one of
their major disadvantages is that they cannot use the fruits of their
creativity. As a result, their "fruits" are being purposely stolen from
them. Not long before my return back home from America, I had a meeting
with an old friend of mine, an American who was a specialist of Russian
culture. We had a long conversation. Among other things he mentioned that
America does not have a need to study sciences. He said they could easily
use Russian knowledge, which they can easily acquire for little or no money.

As a sociologist, I immediately determined that if we were to isolate the
US completely and stop the brain drain there, the consequences will be
catastrophic. The US will be unable to cope with intellectual deficit.

-Perhaps, we should listen to those who critique us? Maybe we should really
take a closer look at the following accusations: that Russian mafia flooded
the West, Russians who throw their money around are really annoying and so
on. Actually, personal culture of some Russians doesn"t appear sympathetic.

-I personally noticed that Western media was overflowing with reports
regarding Russian mafia. One day, I got really tired of hearing the same
stuff over and over again. So I decided to write them a letter asking them
to provide some names of those members of the Russian mafia. In the end, it
turned out that neither one of the persons who had been accused in mafia
connections had Russian last names.

Russophobia today is a fascinating phenomenon from the sphere of ideology
and politics, or rather political strategy. In XX century Russians
encroached upon world's leadership. Our nation has opened a new line of
evolution. One can say: we have existed 70 years in a communist country. At
the same time, the issue can be approached from a different perspective. It
can be said that despite major advantage of the West and all the hardships
that we had to endure, we have been able to hold on for whole 70 years!
That is why they do not like us and are still fearful of us over there.

Sergey Maslov



		
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