2) Your second paragraph so misinterprets my post it isn't worth responding to. I suggest reading other people's posts before weighing in.
3)As for your last sentence, maybe, maybe not, but merely re-asserting what's already been argued isn't going to advance the conversation.
Liza
> From: "Joseph Wanzala" <jwanzala at hotmail.com>
> Reply-To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org
> Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 13:34:08 -0700
> To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org
> Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] Double Standard: Israel and Saudi Arabia
>
> How about JINSA, the "Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs, a
> non-profit, non-partisan educational organization committed to explaining
> the need for a prudent national security policy for the United States,
> addressing the security requirements of both the United States and the State
> of Israel, and strengthening the strategic cooperation relationship between
> these two great democracies." ? Here the term 'Jewish' and "Israel' are seen
> as co-extensive.
> http://www.jinsa.org/about/about.html
> http://www.thenation.com/docprint.mhtml?i=20020902&s=vest
>
> As to the business of how confortable Bush is with other rich people, in
> contrast to Clinton, let's not forget that while Clinton himself came from
> humble beginnings, his cabinet was surpassed in its number of millionares
> only by the current Bush cabinet and most of Clinton's closest non-white
> consorts, other than the people in the photo ops, were wealthy African
> Americans like Vernon Jordan and Ron Brown.
>
> The portrayal of the Saudis in F911 was very problematic indeed.
> ___________________________
>
> Liza Featherstone wrote:
>
> I actually think "Saudi" money is OK, just as it's OK to talk about U.S.
> or
> Israeli or British or French money. And we do talk about U.S. money: the US
> money in Israel sustaining the occupation, etc. The reason the term "Jewish
> money" creeps us out -- and it should -- is because "Jews" qua Jews are not
> a nationality or government or any kind of body from whom "money" can
> reasonably said to originate. Jews cannot as a body write a check. Some
> Jews as individuals send money to pro-Israeli groups, others send money to
> anti-war groups, or subscribe to LBO. To talk about "Jewish money"
> substitutes a racist cliche for analysis, as we all agree. Inasmuch as talk
> about "Saudi" money is similarly not always about the government, it risks a
> similar racism, but when we make clear we are talking about the Saudi
> elites, who effectively do run the country, I think it is acceptable. I
> think Moore in his film did do that, especially with the shots of Bush
> senior cavorting with the Saudi ruling class. There the message was not,
> look, he's hanging out with these weird scary Arabs, but rather, look how
> comfortable he is with other rich people, regardless of apparent cultural
> barriers. Unlike Clinton, Bush I was not a guy was often shown relaxing and
> kicking back with people very different from himself, so the image is
> striking, making you think, oh, maybe they are not so different: perhaps
> globally, the ruling class is his "base" rather than the American people who
> voted for him.
>
> Liza
>
>
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