>why not both? leaving out the "chimerical", which is hardly what any
>pres-runner would use as self-description,
Of course not. But I'm not constrained by the delusions of self-description.
> and leaving out the "painful"
>which sounds very religious-left, guilt ridden, and guaranteed to repel
>people already living with enough hardship, struggle, and even pain...
Well what the hell do you think it involves, other than a lot of work and rejection?
Doug