[lbo-talk] Andrew Sullivan: Way, Way Off the Reservation

Michael Pugliese michael098762001 at earthlink.net
Sun Jul 18 18:59:39 PDT 2004


On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 21:30:40 -0400 (EDT), Michael Pollak <mpollak at panix.com> wrote: a great post.

Don't forget though other figures like lit critter Bruce Bawer, "Beyond Queer: Challenging Gay Left Orthodoxy, " and the Indie Gay Forumites. Hmm, economist Deirdre McCloskey formerly Donald writes for them. Deirdre also had a piece in rethinking Marxism a while ago. Gay Today at Badpuppy ... Neoconservative author, Bruce Bawer, is critiqued by Professor Michael Warner on the basis of Bawer's book Beyond Queer: Challenging Gay Left Orthodoxy. ... http://www.gaytoday.badpuppy.com/garchive/events/070997ev.htm http://www.indegayforum.org/ Guns, Gays, and Propaganda

What message was the Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation (GLAAD) sending when it issued a statement criticizing the administration on gay marriage, but chock full of denunciations of the NRA and gun ownership? Not one consistent with upholding constitutional principles, that's for sure. By Paul Varnell - 05-10-0 On Gay Marriage, Conservatives Betray Conservatism

In their strident opposition to gay marriage, many on the Right abandon the key principles of modern conservatism: that every individual counts, that outcomes matter as much as intentions, and that risk should be handled rationally. By Jonathan Rauch - 07-05-04 The Other Critics of Gay Marriage. Let's not forget that a segment of the gay left has never come onboard the marriage fight. Writes gay "progressive" Michael Bronski in The Boston Phoenix: Alongside the well-worn plea for gay cultural liberation is emerging a critique of gay marriage based on class rather than culture. Indeed, the push to legalize same-sex marriage has been so rushed and emotionally heady...that complicated legal issues with particular implications for the working poor and people of color were quite simply ignored.

...in the Boston College Law Review, lawyers Kara S. Suffredini and Madeleine V. Findley argue persuasively that while same-sex marriage will provide advantages to some people -- those with incomes that are middle class or higher -- it could have deleterious effects on other groups. Suffredini and Findley examine a myriad of commonly accepted myths about the benefits of same-sex marriage and discover that, often, they deliver far less than they promise, especially if you are poor....

...the simple fact remains that the fight for marriage equality is at its essence not a progressive fight, but rather a deeply conservative one. Oh, the horror of gays working for mere legal equality, rather than to undermine capitalism and patriarchy! --Stephen H. Miller Ayn Rand and Homosexuality

The highly influential novelist and proponent of radical individualism had a major blind spot — her hostility toward homosexuality. Over time, those inspired by her works, including Rand's gay readers, have had to confront her prejudice. By Paul Varnell - 12-15-03

http://www.potowmack.org/aynrand.html Whittaker Chambers Reviews Ayn Rand National Review, 1957

-- Michael Pugliese



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