[lbo-talk] Bohemian Grove

Joseph Wanzala jwanzala at hotmail.com
Tue Jul 20 11:12:17 PDT 2004


Chip, you seem to be far too caught up in your own delusional fantasies that have nothing to do with what I said. I was merely commenting on the significance of a long article about the Bohemian Grove in the SF Chronicle posted by your boy, Doug H.

Joe W.


>From: "Chip Berlet" <cberlet at igc.org>
>Reply-To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org
>To: <lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org>
>Subject: RE: [lbo-talk] Bohemian Grove
>Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 13:40:03 -0400
>
>Hi,
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Joseph Wanzala [mailto:jwanzala at hotmail.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 12:49 AM
> > To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org
> > Subject: RE: [lbo-talk] Bohemian Grove
> >
>
> > think it has to do with the way in which 'conspiracy
> > politics' has moved
> > from the margin of political discource toward the center
> > since November
> > 2000. I think there is simultaneously a growing public dread for and
> > acknowledgement of the unofficial, even criminal, channels
> > through which
> > state power is exercised and subverted and a bizzare
> > fascination with and
> > veneration of it.
>
>This is a creepy echo of the fascist explanation of how power is
>exercised in a "corrupt" society; and recalls the process in Weimar
>Germany where anti-government populist politics was used to claim the
>government was controlled by secret, criminal (Jewish) elites and needed
>to be purged of its decadent and subversive elements.
>
>Of course, this masks how capitalism works, and creates scapegoats, and
>displaces debate over actual structural, institutional, and systemic
>changes to society that would benefit more people, but, what the heck,
>think of the huge coalition when right and left join to fight the
>corrupt regime!
>
>Somewhere Otto and Gregor Strasser are smiling.
>
>Joe, I realize you are sincere, but your political line is far more
>likely to build a mass base for fascism than a mass base for progressive
>movements.
>
>-Chip Berlet
>
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