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Joanna
Charles Brown wrote:
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>Yes, I accept this criticism and more precise formulation. However, it is
>for women to say what you say here, not for me , as a man, to say. Wouldn't
>be correct for me , nor other men, to criticize women's sexist
>speech/behaviors/attitudes.
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>Charles
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>From: snit snat
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>huh? That's a new one on me. We live in an oppressive society and that
>means that even the oppressed articulate the vocabulary of oppression.
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>Jenny pointed out not too long ago that she is often given a jiggler when
>she participates in discussion lists like this. Yoshie was recently called
>a man on the list. I've often found myself with a jiggler, but when I peek
>inside my underwear, I do not see one!
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>Jenny's point was that, even though she has an obviously female name,
>people will still believe she's a man, probably because they either expect
>that she must be since 95% of the list is composed of men (at least
>participants with male from names) OR because the way she writes and
>engages in argument is read as male. Both men _and_ women have called me a
>man. Both men and women have insisted I'm aggressive and that I argue like
>a man.
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>I fail to see how that translates into the notion that only men can be
>engaged in sexist speech/behaviors/attitudes.
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>To take another example. In spite of my feminism, I once caught myself
>saying, "My husband's baby sitting tonight, that's why I don't have the
>sonshine with me" when someone asked why I was toting my kid with me to a
>meeting.
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>To take yet another, the overwhelming tendency for people to believe that,
>if they visit someone's home and it's a mess, that it must be the woman
>who's a slob.
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>My husband wasn't babysitting. He was parenting; he was being a father. A
>couple's messy home isn't the responsibility of the woman in the couple,
>but both of their responsibility. Even a feminist consciousness can't
>always fight these deeply ingrained habits of thought. Simply being a woman
>doesn't mean I'm incapable of thinking them, either.
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>Kelley
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