[lbo-talk] Re: Good news about unions

andie nachgeborenen andie_nachgeborenen at yahoo.com
Thu Jun 3 19:42:07 PDT 2004



>
> in other words, yea, we want people to have dignity
> and nice comfortable lives, but doesnt all this
> stuff, directly resulting from struggle, usually
> conducted in the past, conservatize people? has
> labor been totally co-opted? how the hell do you
> approach a person working 40 hrs a week with a house
> and two cars and benefits and talk about revolution?

Well, leaving aside that no one has a clue what it would mean to talk about revolution today. what are you saying? That leftists shouldn't struggle to improve the lives of working people because it will deradicalize them? The worse the better? We want them hungry and ragged? Obviously there is a tension here. Probably the hardest place in the world to be a communist or revolutionary socialist is in the Scandanavian social democracies. What could you possibly offer workers in Sweden that (a) they don't have, and (b) would be worth disrupting their comfortable lives to get? However, it's also true that if Americans had what they had in Sweden, we'd think the revolution was over, and we'd won. It wouldn't be bad to get that far, don't you think?

jsk

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