[lbo-talk] Re: Is Berlet Combat Ready?

Jordan Hayes jmhayes at j-o-r-d-a-n.com
Fri Jun 18 13:00:46 PDT 2004


Joseph Wanzala quotes Chip:


>> "Well, they are combat-ready. That means that unit of
>> the military could be sent into combat -- somewhere
>> between 24 and 72 hours. There is no evidence, and to
>> this day there is no evidence that there were jet
>> aircraft, fueled up, warmed up, ready to go at Andrews
>> with fighter pilots sitting in a ready room ready to
>> take off."

And then misunderstands this article:


> http://msnbc.msn.com/id/5215957/

... in particular:


|> First, President Bush would have had to have ordered
|> that any hijacked airliners be shot down; the military’s
|> rules of engagement did not allow for that without such
|> presidential intercession. Bush ultimately did make that
|> call, but only after the Pentagon was hit.
|>
|> Second, NORAD’s F-16 Fighting Falcons at Langley Air Force
|> Base, near Norfolk, Va., would have had to have been
|> launched sooner.

Note that Andrews Air Force Base was not one of the "ready alert" bases on 9/11 ...

Chip makes this (correct) distinction because in an earlier post he wrote:


>> Ruppert continues to plug the baseless story about a government
>> conspiracy behind the jets not flying out of Andrews, written by
>> Illarion Bykov and Jared Israel:
>> http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/11_20_01_911murder.html

[ see <http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/pipermail/lbo-talk/Week-of-Mon-20040301/005 088.html> ]

That article starts with this:


:> Andrews Air Force Base is a huge military installation just 10
:> miles from the Pentagon.
:>
:> On 11 September there were two entire squadrons of combat-ready
:> fighter jets at Andrews. Their job was to protect the skies over
:> Washington D.C. They failed to do their job.

Which is, as they say, crap in at least 3 ways.

Regardless, Langley AFB is over 130 miles from the Pentagon.

Chip: 1 Joseph: 0

/jordan



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