[lbo-talk] Comment on F-9/11 and racism

John Thornton jthorn65 at mchsi.com
Wed Jun 30 11:58:06 PDT 2004



>You are operating from radically individualistic premises. Everyone
>knows this (or ought to), and of course even more egregious cases exist.
>But this tells us _nothing_ about what racism does to the working class
>_as a class_. It has been shown over and over again that the greater the
>spread in wages, socialservices, education, etc. between white and black
>workers, the worse off _both_ groups are in comparison with areas in
>which the spread is less.

You can argue this all you want at the larger level it is less than clear that this is true. At the individual level racism benefits whites. Your arguing that the concept of racism as you refer to it bears no relationship to concrete examples of that abstraction. Your argument reifies racism and is therefore a logical fallacy.


>The question of why a given individual white worker "profits" from
>racism and the question of why large numbers of white workers support
>racist policies have NO RELATION whatever to the quite separate question
>of whether white workers as a whole _objectively_ suffer from or profit
>from racism. It is pretty clear that white workers _as a whole_ suffer
>seriously from the effects of white supremacy and structural racism.
>
>Carrol



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