[lbo-talk] " Race " in Russia

" Chris Doss " nomorebounces at mail.ru
Wed Mar 17 01:18:14 PST 2004


OK, I will make a couple of further points on this and then leave it at that.

1. Ethnic Russians do not consider themselves to be White people. Russia is only peripherally part of Western civilization. About the only thing Russia got from Europe is its religion.

2. American and Western European concepts of "race" are the product of the particular historical development of the West and its practice of African slavery. Russia wasn't part of that development. Russia had its own slaves and didn't import any. There was no ground in which racism in the Western sense could grow.

3. Russianness has historically been defined by "autocracy, orthodoxy, and nationality," and, then, Sovietness. "Race" had nothing to do with it. In fact, Russia imported most of its tsars from Poland and Germany, most of the GenSecs were non-Russians, and Stalin was a "Black," looked it, and spoke with a very thick accent. Yermolov would give Russian women as wives to Caucasian chieftains who would swear fealty to the tsar. Pushkin's great-grandfather was made a general in the tsar's army; in the American colonies, he would have been working down in the cotton fields somewhere under a whip. Actually Pushkin himself would have been considered a fraction of a person and would certainly not have been writing poetry for the court and wooing high society dames (and getting shot over them). Pushkin's African ancestry is quite visible.

4. Not everybody in the whole world is an American. Russia has enough problems of its own without Westerners reading their own pathologies into it.



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