[lbo-talk] Chomsky, Nader, & the Green Party

Yoshie Furuhashi furuhashi.1 at osu.edu
Sat Mar 20 16:12:52 PST 2004


Jon Johanning jjohanning at igc.org, Sat Mar 20 15:09:07 PST 2004:


>On Saturday, March 20, 2004, at 04:29 PM, Yoshie Furuhashi wrote:
>
>>it's another thing to say, "Don't dare to compete with Kerry, or
>>else" -- e.g., Jon Johanning, "If they get enough votes to put
>>Bush back in, they will be absolutely blackballed and
>>non-cooperated-with by the rest of the U.S." (at
>><http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/pipermail/lbo-talk/Week-of-Mon-20040315/ >
>>005923.html>). Unfortunately for the poor ABB pundits, however,
>>they have no cultural hegemony over "the rest of the U.S." and no
>>power to "blackball" anyone. :->
>
>If I am right in judging that the majority of Americans (not just
>"activists") who consider themselves on the left part of the
>spectrum are increasingly angry with Nader's actions, and if Bush
>wins narrowly again, they *themselves* will blackball Nader's
>supporters from the Left -- by turning their backs on them.

If the majority of Americans were really angry with Ralph Nader's actions as you argued, why worry about Nader helping Bush get reelected at all? Just how many votes in the battleground states do you think Nader will receive? It is evident that you aren't convinced of what you are saying. :-)

I'm confident that Bush will be voted out (barring a major terrorist attack on the mainland United States), and I'm interested in making sure that John Kerry will not win by a landslide and, more importantly, that organizers and activists in social movements know what kind of Democratic president they will be fighting against for four years:

***** Sunday, March 21, 2004 7:48 AM Spanish leader rebuffs U.S. on Iraq pullout

MADRID - Spain's incoming prime minister rebuffed calls from U.S. political leaders on Thursday (Friday in Manila) to reconsider his pledge to pull Spanish troops out of Iraq and set new conditions for keeping them in the country.

Socialist leader Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero's pre-election pledge to withdraw Spain's 1,300 troops from Iraq has become a burning international issue since his shock election win last Sunday, three days after suspected al Qaeda-linked train bombings in Madrid killed 202 people.

President Bush has called on Spain and other allies in Iraq to stick with Washington, suggesting a withdrawal would be caving in to pressure from al Qaeda.

Expected U.S. Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry has also urged Zapatero to reconsider, saying he should "send a message that terrorists cannot win by their acts of terror."

"Perhaps John Kerry doesn't know, but I am delighted to explain to him that my commitment to the return of the troops dates from before (last week's bombings)," Zapatero said in an interview with Spain's Telecinco television. . . .

<http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/FlashNewsStory.aspx?FlashOID=15831> ***** -- Yoshie

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