[lbo-talk] Re: we had opportunities...

[kelley at pulpculture.org]

At 02:47 PM 3/21/2004, John Thornton wrote:
>When I wish to explain to him that a more "progressive" agenda is not the 
>cause of his dissatisfaction but more likely a cure for what's wrong I 
>will not be sharing the above statements with him. He may be offended to 
>know that as a Nascar fan who watches Fox he does not qualify as a 
>"genuinely intelligent person" to some self proclaimed progressives. I'm 
>not certain this sort of thinking will help in winning more and more 
>converts among the working class everyday.

I don't expect WDK will, either:

http://squawk.ca/lbo-talk/0302/1825.html
From: W. Kiernan (wkiernan at ij.net)
Date: Tue Feb 18 2003 - 21:21:00 EST

Mark Pavlick wrote:

 >

 > He's only telling the truth. You don't even have to leave

 > lbo-talk to read condescending attitudes towards working people,

 > including those he mentions who go on to become "cannon-fodder" .

Do you think working-class people don't read lbo-talk? I'm a
construction worker and I've been subscribed to this list for four or
five years at least.

OK, maybe I'm the one and only, the rest of y'all are hoity-toity
innalecshural snobs - probably that's the case - but I'll tell you this:
while nobody on the job site (excepting me) wants to come right out and
say "Bush is a lying warmongering prick," on account of none of us care
to be regarded as anti-patriotic, still it looks to me that the support
for this proposed Iraq fiasco among us construction types is absolutely
paper-thin.

I've never seen anything like it, there was more enthusiasm for invading
Granada, for crying out loud. Everybody down here wants to know one
thing: "where the Hell is Osama?" This despite a too-blatant pro-war
advertising push coming down from the millionaire bastards who own the
mass media that out-shouts anything I've seen back to the sixties. Even
the biggest suckers aren't sporting "Attack Iraq!" bumper stickers on
their pickup trucks.

Yours WDK - WKiernan at concentric.net