[lbo-talk] Eagleton on fascism

Chris Doss lookoverhere1 at yahoo.com
Mon May 10 23:43:39 PDT 2004


I think this conversation is getting a little weird, but remember that being a rural resident, or being a farmer, is not the same as being a peasant. Not that it proves anything, but a google search on "Jewish Ukrainian Peasant" gets _zero_ hits: http://www.google.ru/search?q=%22Jewish+Ukrainian+Peasant%22&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=ru&btnG=%D0%9F%D0%BE%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BA+%D0%B2+Google&lr=

Do you know when the Pale of Settlement got dissolved?

Grant Lee <grantlee at iinet.net.au> wrote:
>From a cursory web search, it appears to me that Stalin actually increased
the number of Jews involved in agriculture in Ukraine:

"At the turn of the twentieth century, more than one-third of the Jews in western and central Ukraine lived in towns and shtetlach where they formed an absolute majority. Another fifth or so lived in places where they comprised nearly half of the population. Jews constituted nearly one-third of Ukraine's urban population, putting them in close contact with the largely Russian city dwellers but also, as traders and merchants,with the overwhelmingly Ukrainian peasantry. Though Jews were generally barred from owning land in Ukraine, there were Jewish farmers in some areas, as from time to time the tsars would give Jews lands in territories they wanted to colonize.

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