[lbo-talk] more nonvoters

Doug Henwood dhenwood at panix.com
Mon May 24 10:05:25 PDT 2004


There are some real issues here, certainly worth debating, but could we do it without the personal barbs?

Doug

Chuck0 wrote:


>John Lacny wrote:
>
>>Munson writes:
>>
>>Using the word "scene" is just another way of saying "activist community."
>>
>>My point exactly. "Activist community" is, if anything, an even
>>more telling choice of words than "scene." When people talk this
>>way it is a sign that their idea of "activism" is reshuffling the
>>organized rather than organizing the unorganized. A group of
>>friends doing the thing they're "into," in rather the same way that
>>some people are into raves or Civil War re-enactments. That's very
>>different from people who make it their goal to actively organize
>>ordinary people into sustainable organizations with a view to
>>actually shifting power in this country and the world.
>
>Lacny, do you do any real organizing, or do you just pull this stuff
>out of some hat?
>
>It's "revealing" how you disparage my efforts to explain real
>phenomena such as "activist community." Organizing doesn't just
>happen randomly. Activists in most communities work together on many
>different levels. They collaborate on projects. They form
>organizations. They organize cultural events. The activist community
>is an important mutual aid network which helps empower activists "to
>actively organize ordinary people." The strength of local activists
>depends on the healthiness of this local activist community.



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