The idea of strategic victory through isolation and immiseration has real merit. As Luke points out, it's not something to just be dismissed glibly.
:-)
Chip "Mr. Glib" Berlet
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> From: Willy Greenfields [mailto:filthydirtyunwashed at yahoo.com]
> Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 2:05 PM
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> Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] Democracy Now 5/26
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> Luke Weiger <lweiger at umich.edu> wrote:
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> > I know. I mean, for example, Chomsky thinks the US
> > _won_ the Vietnam war...
>
> I am inclined to agree with him. Countless/uncountable
> numbers of dead Vietnamese/Lao/Cambodians vs some
> 58,000 US fatalities. And consider the isolation and
> immiseration which followed. Similarly, the US won the Cold
> War, both by outlasting the USSR and by subsequently imposing
> an incredibly punitive 'reform' regime under which many
> million former Soviet citizens' lives ended unnecessarily early.
>
> In neither case did the empire get what it claimed it
> wanted (free market democracies), but it sure beat the
> shit out of the poor citizens constituting its
> erstwhile opponent.
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