[lbo-talk] Nader Does the CFR

C. G. Estabrook galliher at alexia.lis.uiuc.edu
Mon May 31 08:59:42 PDT 2004


I can imagine that question's being asked in Parliament in 1781 (perhaps of Burke): "But who at this point are 'the Americans' whom Britain should 'leave' power to? Benedict Arnold? Sam Adams?"

In the event, it wasn't a practical consideration. --CGE

On Sun, 30 May 2004, Joseph Wanzala wrote:


> but who at this point are 'the Iraqis' who should the US 'leave' power
> to? Ahmed Chalabi? Al Sadr?
>
> >From: "C. G. Estabrook" <galliher at alexia.lis.uiuc.edu>
> >
> >I think they've argued (and I would agree) that the demand should be
> >immediate US withdrawal -- corporate and military -- without waiting for
> >the US to arrange UN replacements or an international presence, because
> >it's clear whose interests would be served under those circumstances. If
> >the Iraqis want to arrange UN replacements or an international presence,
> >they would of course be free to do so. The only matters left for the US
> >would be trying the American war criminals (or, preferably, delivering
> >them to an international tribunal, like Milosevic) and paying reparations.
> >
> >On Sun, 30 May 2004, Doug Henwood wrote:
> >
> > > At least two of our distinguished listmembers, Cdes Cox and Furuhashi,
> > > repeatedly have said no UN replacements, no international presence -
> > > leave it to the Iraqis.
> >



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