[lbo-talk] Barack Obama

joanna bujes jbujes at covad.net
Sun Nov 7 12:31:40 PST 2004


If being a christian or not being a christian is not about anything more than following the crowd, then there is no more virtue to "not being a christian" today than there was to being one two hundred years ago.

Joanna

Luke Weiger wrote:


>I'd thought that a Marxist would be willing to fill in my enthymeme. These
>days, smart educated folk tend (I'm judging anecdotally) not to be
>Christians.
>
>-- Luke
>
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>From: "andie nachgeborenen" <andie_nachgeborenen at yahoo.com>
>To: <lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org>
>Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 12:47 PM
>Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] Barack Obama
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>>Yeah, only morons like Augustine, Aquinas, Anselm,
>>William of Occam, Duns Scotus, Dante, Descartes,
>>Leibniz, Newton, Kant, and Hegel are Christians.
>>
>>--- Luke Weiger <lweiger at umich.edu> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Well, you do have to wonder if people as smart and
>>>well-educated as Clinton,
>>>Gore, Obama et al. are actually all Christians.
>>>
>>>-- Luke
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "andie nachgeborenen"
>>><andie_nachgeborenen at yahoo.com>
>>>To: <lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org>
>>>Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 9:35 AM
>>>Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] Barack Obama
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>If you find that sort of statement unsettling, you
>>>>Yhave to get out and meet people. Barak Obama is
>>>>
>>>>
>>>an
>>>
>>>
>>>>extremely liberal U of C constitutional law
>>>>
>>>>
>>>professor,
>>>
>>>
>>>>not a no-brow Texas fundamentalist. Like most of
>>>>
>>>>
>>>this
>>>
>>>
>>>>country, excluding people on this list, and
>>>>
>>>>
>>>especially
>>>
>>>
>>>>like most black people, he's also a believing
>>>>Christian. That doesn't mean that he's gonna go
>>>>
>>>>
>>>out
>>>
>>>
>>>>and smite the infidel in the name of the Lord. My
>>>>black friends say things to me like, Have a
>>>>
>>>>
>>>blessed
>>>
>>>
>>>>day, and they mean it, like Jesus should bless me.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>And
>>>
>>>
>>>>they know I'm a commie Jewish atheist. People
>>>>
>>>>
>>>here
>>>
>>>
>>>>have to learn to get out some. Find a Christian
>>>>
>>>>
>>>and
>>>
>>>
>>>>have her or him invite you to church services, it
>>>>would not hurt. Listen to people talk about their
>>>>faith (without arguing).
>>>>
>>>>jks
>>>>
>>>>--- ravi <gadfly at exitleft.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Michael Perelman wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>m I the only one who was not particularly
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>impressed by him? He seemed nice. He had
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>a nice story. He had nice credentials. And
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>maybe
>>>
>>>
>>>>>he was good in Illinois politics?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I don't know.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>i must admit that his "we worship an awesome
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>god"
>>>
>>>
>>>>>bit scared me a bit...
>>>>>
>>>>>--ravi
>>>>>
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