[lbo-talk] No, actually, I don't believe it (update).

Gregory Geboski greg at mail.unionwebservices.com
Sun Nov 7 21:14:04 PST 2004


I'll be damned. Here I was convinced that I was seeing things re a changing CNN exit poll on Election Day, and now I find this:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1293911

Yup, that's what I saw. Might be a reasonable explanation somewhere (although I can't think of one). But at least I wasn't losing my mind.

---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Gregory Geboski" <greg at mail.unionwebservices.com> Reply-To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 01:36:03 -0800


>I was following CNN on-line, and I noticed they had an exit poll that clearly indicated Kerry would win. Close, but there was a solid gender gap, solid black voting for Kerry, and weak white male voting for Bush. I sent the URL around to some friends. Then, I went back to check the thing, and I swear the results were changed. I wish I had saved the first one I saw.
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>Anonymous Bush aides are already being quoted saying that Kerry is "delusional" for not conceding Ohio.
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>From: snit snat <snitilicious at tampabay.rr.com>
>Reply-To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org
>Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 03:55:31 -0500
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>>At 01:50 AM 11/3/2004, joanna bujes wrote:
>>>I don't actually believe that a big turnout is consistent with a Bush
>>>victory. There was a big turnout, particularly of minority votesrs....and
>>>a Bush victory.
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>>>It's not that I overestimate the American electorate; it's just that it
>>>doesn't add up.
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>>>Somehow, I don't think this is going to hold up. It's not optimisim. I'm
>>>the least optimistic person in the world....it just doesn't compute....on
>>>any level. Sorry to be so vague.
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>>i don't frickin' believe it either. 1/3 of the population was voting early
>>and it still looked like the turnout was up at the polls. Then I read that,
>>wherever there is an audit trail, the exit polls match up, but wherever
>>there isn't one, they don't?
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>>And, on the radio, people were reporting that they'd vote, check the screen
>>and see that everything had been changed to the republicans. One woman
>>tried three times and then complained. Sure enough, she was doing it right
>>and something was fucking up by the time it got to the final page. The
>>reporter--and they really stay away from conspiracy theory on this
>>station--said that they figure there was a subtle mechanism to throw out
>>votes every so often, drip-drip-drip, and maybe no one would notice.
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>>Is this true you think? will these people bitch? I pray to Ghu!
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>>http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=1290765&mesg_id=1290765
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>>kelley
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>>"We live under the Confederacy.
>>We're a podunk bunch of swaggering
>>pious hicks."
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>> --Bruce Sterling
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