[lbo-talk] SEIU gets ready to bolt AFL-CIO

Nathan Newman nathanne at nathannewman.org
Wed Nov 10 08:48:59 PST 2004


----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Dawson" <MDawson at pdx.edu> -Where are the direct rank-and-file elections of state and national officers -here? Would this plan abolish the existing convention-election travesty?

I'm somewhat in favor of direct elections of union officers, but I'm not sure that is necessarily improves democracy. A direct vote for the union leadership often gives the incumbents more power, since they dominate communication within the overall union, and it's often hard for fractured oppositions to unite. Over the years many progressives preferred the tiered system of electing local leaders who in turn elected leaders at a regional level who in turn elected the national leadership.

One interesting legal reality is that the more power is centralized along the lines advocated by the Unite to Win/NUP/SEIU folks, the more direct elections will be required. The Carpenters centralized power into their regional councils and because of the Landrum-Griffin law, they were forced to hold direct elections for regional union leaders.

The result of local mergers and this legal reality means that in practice, both SEIU and the Carpenters, as two examples, increasingly have only two tiers for leadership. Directly elected leaders of giant locals, in SEIU ranging from 50,000 to 200,000 members each, where those local, directly elected leaders control who runs the national union. Maybe direct elections would improve democracy somewhat, but many people already complain that direct elections in these large locals make it hard for opposition leaders to get elected.

But if you like direct elections, you must love the giant locals at SEIU and the Carpenters, right Michael?

Nathan Newman

-----Original Message----- From: lbo-talk-bounces at lbo-talk.org [mailto:lbo-talk-bounces at lbo-talk.org] On Behalf Of John Lacny Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 7:01 AM To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org Subject: [lbo-talk] SEIU gets ready to bolt AFL-CIO

Er, at least, you'd get that impression from reading Steven Greenhouse:

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/10/national/10labor.html?ex=1257829200&en=680 51124572dc9f8&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland

There's also a website set up by SEIU:

http://www.unitetowin.org/

I won't give my own thoughts on this, save to note that the timing was decided before the election, and would have happened regardless of who won. So if the media starts saying that this is all "fallout" from the defeat, know that that's not true. This has been in the cards for quite some time.

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