[lbo-talk] Where we stand today

Michael Pugliese michael098762001 at earthlink.net
Fri Nov 12 06:14:05 PST 2004


On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 00:54:53 -0500, Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com> wrote:


> John Lacny wrote:
>
>> Lance Murdoch proves that he is a pontificating moron:


>>
>> Thanks for proving my point, you clueless dipshit.
>
> You could have just said, "No, you're wrong."

John used to sign his alt. politics.socialism.trotsky usenet posts, !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nothing like M-L's in the mean dept.

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! +Lacny&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&selm=3967A0FC.46F55CA%40earthlink.net&rnum=1 From: William Kaufman (kman484 at earthlink.net) Subject: Re: Lacny's Self-Incrimination

View: Complete Thread (5 articles) Original Format Newsgroups: alt.politics.socialism Date: 2000/07/08

Even when I don't respond to him, the festering, roiling madman Lacny can't desist from his obsession with me. He accuses me of being a "nut" and a Usenet addict, yet he (a) initiated this whole dialogue with me from out of nowhere and

(b) maniacally perpetuates this one.

Just to clarify Lacny's latest sallies into fantasyland: if anyone doubts the veracity of my characterization of Lacny as a Stalinist, I invite anyone who

might be interested (and I can't imagine who would be) to go to www.deja.com, click on "Usenet," and then go to "Power Search." Then fill in the appropriate categories: Author--Lacny; Forum--alt.politics.socialism.trotsky; Key words--variously "icepick," "Trotskyite wreckers," and "Khrushchev." You will find that I have been utterly scrupulous and exact in my reporting of Lacny's classically Stalinist views.

Moreover, you are further invited to apply the same methodology to my comments about the policy of Michael Gavin's group--the British Socialist Workers Party--about North Korea. Contrary to the malicious and intentional lie desperately hurled above by the foaming Lacny, I have never supported any aspect

of the regime in North Korea. I do support the idea, however, that when any Third World Country is attacked by an imperialist power, one should defend the people of that country--not its regime--against such attack. Gavin's group at the time did not defend the Korean people against imperialist attack. The proper

policy was to defend the Korean workers and policies against both the(a) the tyranny of Stalinism and (b) imperialist aggression. The forebears of the SWP did (a) but not (b), therefore calling down the justifiable scorn of large segments of the left.

You have not seen the last of Lacny's lies. He is still nursing his insensate rage over my effective discrediting of his Stalinist treachery in APST, and his whole life is reduced to a simmering, devouring vexation as he awaits opportunities to flame me on Usenet. He is like the protagonist from Dostoevsky's Notes from Underground. Bumped by an anonymous pedestrian on the street one day, the protagonist is consumed with humiliation and rage for a year

as he summons the courage and opportunity to find the man on the street and bump

him back. Such is the sad story of Lacny's life these days. It takes all kinds. -- Michael Pugliese



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