[lbo-talk] Re: Nader and his detractors

[John Thornton]

You have to do more than Google. The question is when Kerry spoke of 
Retirement Savings Accounts in the past what did he mean and how is it 
different than what he says now? I cannot find any definition of the 
accounts he has spoken out in favour of in the past. He has no plan spelled 
out on his website and I have never seen any particulars on what he wants 
but he is the one who used the above term and I want to know what it means. 
I also think 401k's suck and are a backdoor way of supporting increased 
reliance on private retirement accounts. When he says people should 
"supplement" their SS with 401k's he is in essence saying that your 
retirement should be partly privatized. It does not take much to imagine an 
decrease in SS benefits paid out for later retirees with the idea that 
401k's will "pick up the slack" Very different from Bush's position but not 
exactly a progressives dream or a complete refuting of private held 
retirement accounts. If you labeling me as an "anti-Kerry fundie" you are 
way off base and as far as research goes you have not shown me what Kerry 
meant by the term used above so you are showing me anything I don't already 
know. Go to issues2000.org (which incidentally was the first site listed 
when I googled the same four words) and you will read about Kerry 
supporting the idea of the above mentioned savings accounts but no 
definition. I have seen other references but again they have no definition. 
I would be happy as could be to find that they are a reference to an 
expansion of SS benefits for low income individuals but I don't know and 
apparently neither do you. I haven't exactly knocked myself out trying to 
locate it

John Thornton


>On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 15:50:31 -0500, John Thornton <jthorn65 at mchsi.com>
>wrote:
>
>Kerry>...he favors some sort of private "Retirement Savings Accounts" for
>people...
>
>    All 'ya have to do is google...
>http://www.google.com/search?q=Retirement+Savings+Accounts+Kerry
>
>Voted NO on allowing personal retirement accounts.
>Vote on an amendment expressing the sense of the Senate that the Finance
>Committee should consider legislation to use the federal budget surplus to
>establish personal retirement accounts as a supplement to Social Security.
>Bill S.Con.Res.86 ; vote number 1998-56 on Apr 1, 1998
>
>
>--
>Michael Pugliese, who will vote for Cobb but sheesh, really the anti-Kerry
>fundies here need to do some research...