[lbo-talk] Nader and His Detractors

Yoshie Furuhashi furuhashi.1 at osu.edu
Thu Oct 14 04:38:05 PDT 2004


Ravi wrote:
>>It should be easier for a Green Party candidate (or a candidate of
>>another political party on the left) to be elected for US
>>Representative, US Senator, or Governor than for President. As I
>>mentioned, this year, 57 Green Party candidates are running for
>>seats in the US House of Representatives, and 7, the US Senate.
>>Combined impacts -- in terms of fundraising, new party activists,
>>new registered Green voters, new state parties, new party ballots,
>>media coverage, etc. -- of all of them, however, are smaller than
>>Nader/LaDuke 2000 or a Green Party presidential ticket in the
>>future headed by an intellectual in Nader's league of name
>>recognition, political connections, and fundraising capacity (and
>>few US leftists are -- perhaps no US leftist today is -- in Nader's
>>league in these three respects). That's the truth based upon
>>empirical facts.
>
>perhaps but (a) nader's name recognition can still be used to
>promote the greens and (b) name recognition for the party and its
>candidates may still be the better goal to work towards, than in
>pushing for an impossible nader presidency.

Nader promoted the Green Party during and after his 2000 presidential run:

<blockquote>Ralph helped:

* local Greens start 450 new local Green chapters, * achieve ballot lines for several states, * support state and local candidates; * make the party grow from an association of states to a national party; * recruit and share lists of tens of thousands of volunteers; and * start 900 chapters on college campuses, all resulting in the largest vote for a progressive candidacy in 75 years.

Since 2000, Ralph:

* wrote Crashing the Party, touting the Green Party and its platform; * attended 45 fundraisers in some 31 states, at his own expense, raising more money than anyone for the Green Party at the national party, state and local levels; * sent representatives to the Global Greens Conference in Canberra in 2001; the Hiawassee, GA meeting in 2000; the Santa Barbara, CA meeting in 2001; and the D.C. meeting in 2003; Ralph attended the Philadelphia, PA conference in 2002. * has met with dozens of Green leaders around the Globe as they visit D.C.; * went to Europe in 2002 for the 3rd annual Congress of European Greens in Germany, and visited the French and Swedish Greens before their elections.

<http://www.votenader.org/why_ralph/news.php?cid=3></blockquote>

That's more than what any other intellectual in Nader's league has done for the Green Party.

I wish that some of the critics of Nader -- a few of whom are as well known as Nader, for instance, Michael Moore, Noam Chomsky, Howard Zinn, etc. -- also did as much for the Green Party as Nader had.


>>I doubt that John Kerry will be better for the environment than
>>George W. Bush. Each president since Richard Nixon was on the
>>whole worse for the environment than the one before. Bill Clinton
>>was worse than Ron Reagan and George H. W. Bush:
>
>ok, so as you suggest, bush term 2 should be worse than bush term 1,
>yes? then, the question is, would kerry term 1 be worse than a bush
>term 2? i still believe not (btw, thanks for the excerpts of the
>clinton record).

Which is worse -- Kerry's first term or Bush's second term? Hard to say, because that depends on a lot of things. Will there be any terrorist attack on the mainland USA? How soon will activists recover from social movement demobilization caused by the 2004 election? Etc. -- Yoshie

* Critical Montages: <http://montages.blogspot.com/> * Greens for Nader: <http://greensfornader.net/> * Bring Them Home Now! <http://www.bringthemhomenow.org/> * OSU-GESO: <http://www.osu-geso.org/> * Calendars of Events in Columbus: <http://sif.org.ohio-state.edu/calendar.html>, <http://www.freepress.org/calendar.php>, & <http://www.cpanews.org/> * Student International Forum: <http://sif.org.ohio-state.edu/> * Committee for Justice in Palestine: <http://www.osudivest.org/> * Al-Awda-Ohio: <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Al-Awda-Ohio> * Solidarity: <http://www.solidarity-us.org/>



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