[lbo-talk] RE: Nader and His Detractors

Steven Gotzler Steve at Gotzler.org
Wed Oct 20 14:21:42 PDT 2004


Another amazing development is that mainstream Liberal media, like Air America, is so much more energized and aggressive than say good old Left Pacifica.

Recently watched and listened as long time Pacifica listeners actually tuned in to Air America for the first time. They were shocked at how gutsy and on the attack it was, not to mention how professional the quality was in contrast to dead air time Pacifica. Now, I don't know how gutsy it is to mention that the emperor has no clothes in just those words. But most of the Pacifica shows I have heard in the last many years have just taken for granted that all the listeners already know all that basic stuff, and now need to hear about how revolutionary it is to drink your own pee or about how just knowing that flying saucers are real will change the world.

There are so many people out there right now who are canvassing, calling and doing other one-on-one actions related to the election. It will be interesting to see how these newly mobilized people are used after the election, if they are still there at all.

Steve G

----- Original Message ----- From: "Nathan Newman" <nathanne at nathannewman.org> To: <lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org> Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 2:20 PM Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] RE: Nader and His Detractors


> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brad Mayer" <gaikokugo at fusionbb.net>
>
>
> -Evidence: Where was the antiwar movement in this election year?
>
> Most of it was out trying to get rid of the guy who started the war.
>
> That may seem like a roundabout strategy to some folks who think standing
> around with a few thousand people in D.C. is the only real politics, but
> many folks who are passionately against the war see eliminating Bush as
> the
> first step to more comprehensive changes for peace and justice in the
> world.
>
> The basic fact is the electoral antiwar movement is putting hundreds of
> thousands of people in the streets working to dump Bush, many of those
> people travelling great distances to swing states for that effort.
>
> The anti-electoral faction of the antiwar movement could muster only a
> tiny
> number of people for their efforts.
>
> Even if you think electoral work is not a sufficient strategy, those
> abandoning it are cutting them off from the mass movement of antiwar
> activists. Something like 400,000 people EVERY DAY are visiting
> www.dailykos.com, a decidedly antiwar site that is also electorally
> focused
> on dumping Bush.
>
> It is pathetic that no leftwing website probably gets one-hundredth as
> much
> traffic every day, but the militant liberals are kicking the left's ass on
> organizing right now.
>
> Nathan Newman
>
>
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