[lbo-talk] Prop. 62 Would Squelch Third Parties in California

R rhisiart at charter.net
Wed Oct 27 16:34:35 PDT 2004


At 04:21 PM 10/27/2004, R wrote:
>At 06:45 AM 10/27/2004, Nathan Newman wrote:
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Shane Mage" <shmage at pipeline.com>
>>
>>
>>Nathan Newman wrote:
>> >
>> >The Democrats had a "strategy....that actually worked." 'nuf said.
>>
>>No, actually, not enough said. This blind no-nothingness of folks about
>>how the legislative process works is as much ignorant or lie as Bush's
>>descriptions of Kerry as a "flip-flopper" because he voted differently on
>>different legislative amendments.
>>
>>You play to exactly the same ignorance on the left to make your rhetorical
>>point as Bush plays to on the right.
>>
>>-- Nathan Newman

how many times do people have to tell you, nathan newman, what you call the legislative process does NOT work. it's highly contrived so that only certain people and special interests have access and succeed. the grass roots are eliminated from the process. reading your rants about how this closed system "works" leads nowhere.

for example, even when a group with as much "curb appeal" as the 9/11 families do everything they could to lobby congress over a protracted period of time, the nation still got a highly manipulated, highly contrived set of "bipartisan hearings" which eliminated most of the relevant evidence and left the families and the nation with nothing constructive -- precisely what the politicians and the whitehouse wanted. gary hart and warren rudman, who issued a report on national security before 9/11 which would have damned the shrub group, weren't even called upon to testify. http://www.nssg.gov/

you might have something to offer if you could get your consciousness out of closed ended lectures about what you term "legislative process," and cheap ad hominem argument which begs the question against reasonable people who disagree with you.

R


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