[lbo-talk] "Bin Laden"'s October Surprise

[Leigh Meyers]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Shane Mage
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Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 4:04 PM
Subject: [lbo-talk] "Bin Laden"'s October Surprise


A few months ago I posted three questions that nobody on this
list cared to answer:
"1.) Where are the "black boxes?"
2.) Why did the building known as 7 WTC collapse like
      the two buildings that were hit by airplanes?
3.) When did Osama Bin Laden cease to be a covert "asset" of
       U.S. intelligence services?"

Now a video presents "Osama Bin Laden" with a message timed
and phrased so as to help the fraudulent campaign of Ubu POTUS
(aka GWBush Jr).  "Bin Laden" takes the responsibility assigned to
him for 9/11--but also dates his "plot" from---1982!!--even
though everyone knows that he had been faithfully serving the
US Intelligence Services  for at least eight years after that.  So
my question 3 is now answered: "Bin Laden" has *never*
ceased to be "a covert 'asset' of U.S. intelligence services."

Shane Mage

"Thunderbolt steers all things...It consents and does not
consent to be called Zeus."

Herakleitos of Ephesos
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IMHO, I don't think "covert" and "overt" really describe the situation.

My take is: At some point he stopped manifestly working for USINT, but
due to aspects of the type of  war he's waging, his involvement is now what
would perhaps be called latent, or more colloquially "...a side effect".

He *has* given the "west" a rationale to run amuck throughout that
region of the world. However, it's been a few year since USINT
has had any *serious* intelligence on UBL's whereabouts and if they
can't find him... how was, I believe this is an administration quote,
"...A ragtag band of religious zealots.." supposed to round him up.

Yet we used that as an excuse to attack a sovereign nation, mostly
because Unocal & Enron really wanted a short-route pipeline from
the 'stans... right through Afghanistan. UBL was used as the reason

This should be obvious to us... and UBL [Not a moron].

IMHO, he's being "used" to some extent, but unavoidably so.

Surely he knows that.

I'm sure this has been hashed out within his circle of confidants and it is
probably a non-issue. If UBL is any kind of strategic thinker, he has
figured out how to use the situation to his advantage.

He made it very clear that the reason he considers us to be the enemy
is because of our involvement in the middle east, not because he doesn't
want Afghanis to own MP3 players and Cell Phones.

[...]
"God knows it did not cross our minds to attack the towers but after the
situation became unbearable and we witnessed the injustice and tyranny of the
American-Israeli alliance against our people in Palestine and Lebanon, I thought
about it. And the events that affected me directly were that of 1982 and the
events that followed -- when America allowed the Israelis to invade Lebanon,
helped by the U.S. Sixth Fleet."
[...]

If we ever break off relations with Saudi Arabia, and set about arranging
a truly just policy in regard to Israel and Palestine, UBL will most likely
evaporate as a threat to the United States.

But here's the "tough nut":
"Your security is not in the hands of (Democratic presidential candidate John)
Kerry or Bush or al Qaeda. Your security is in your own hands and each state
which does not harm our security will remain safe."

He wants Americans to take responsibility for our action.

Gooood Luck!

Quote Source: <http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L293553.htm?_lite_=1>

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Leigh Meyers
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