-- Luke
----- Original Message ----- From: "andie nachgeborenen" <andie_nachgeborenen at yahoo.com> To: <lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org> Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 9:53 PM Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] MoveOn v. Bush
>
> Why is perjury an issue? Even if Clinton perjured
> himself, there is no law that perjury is or isn't an
> impeachable offense. Even if he didn't perjure
> himself, he was an attorney --a former law professor!
> -- who lied to a federal judge, which is stupid and
> makes him subject to discipline. It's not necessarily
> impeachable, but impeachable is what Congress says it
> is.
>
> And why are we going over all of this again? This is
> six year old gossip.
>
> --- Luke Weiger <lweiger at umich.edu> wrote:
>
> > Michael Dawson wrote:
> >
> > > There's no such thing as a "perjury trap." What
> > "MoveOn" source coined
> > that
> > > lovely term? In the world of law, they're called
> > "questions under oath."
> > > If your lawyer can't convince the judge the
> > question is irrelevant to the
> > > case, you have to answer.
> >
> > Say plaintiff J is pressing a civil case against
> > defendent C on matter SH.
> > Now suppose that indepedent counsel S (or S's
> > associates) tell J's lawyers
> > that they should ask C about matter BJ (which is
> > totally unrelated to SH)
> > when he's under oath, hoping that he'll lie about
> > it. I'd call that a
> > perjury trap, but then again, I'm just a MoveOn
> > hack.
> >
> > > On the suit's merit: You did say it mattered. Go
> > back and read your
> > > original posting.
> >
> > I'll admit that the following is a bit hard to
> > parse: "You think providing
> > misleading testimony during a civil trial on
> > an issue that ought not even have been broached
> > constitutes an impeachable
> > offense?" However, "the issue that ought not even
> > have been broached" that
> > I was referring to wasn't the civil case itself
> > (though I do think it was
> > probably bullshit) but rather whether Clinton
> > engaged in extramarital
> > liasons.
> >
> > -- Luke
> >
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