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> Hi Chuck!
>
> Ditch the name-calling and supply some evidence.
>
> Consider these gems from the Pluralism Project website:
>
> = = =
>
> Bush Favored for Faith, not Economics, in Tulsa, Okl.
>
> * On August 29, 2004 the Los Angeles Times reported that the "Equal
> Parts' religious revival, campaign event and counseling session, [during
> the greater Tulsa "pro-marriage rally" last week] was living proof that
> a key way to influence the ballots of many Oklahomans is through their
> Bibles -- not their billfolds. The state has lost nearly 20% of its
> manufacturing jobs during the Bush administration, and has lagged the
> nation in recovery... In many areas, that would be a blueprint for
> change, a sign that the incumbent should be shoved out of the Oval
> Office. But not in Oklahoma... Voters here tend to view boom-and-bust
> cycles as outside of the presidential purview. And in state polls,
> Bush's lead hovers near 20 percentage points. Oklahoma politics is 'very
> much about religion and faith and character,' said Keith Gaddie,
> professor of political science at the University of Oklahoma.'"
> (August 29, 2004, Los Angeles Times)
>
> Republicans Launch Outreach Projects Targeting Religious Conservatives
>
> * On August 27, 2004 Religion and Ethics Newsweekly reported,
> "Republican strategists are trying to mobilize their base with an
> aggressive outreach campaign targeting religious conservatives... Cedar
> Park Senior Pastor Joseph Fuiten is spearheading a statewide effort to
> register 60,000 new socially conservative voters in churches... Similar
> projects are taking place in other evangelical churches across the
> country. The efforts are ostensibly nonpartisan, but Republicans have
> high hopes for their impact. Analysts say churches are fertile ground
> for potential GOP votes... The Republican National Committee has also
> launched a massive outreach campaign. The center of its strategy is an
> Internet-based interactive 'team leader' project that organizes local
> volunteers into affinity groups -- many of them religious. So far, they
> have 112,000 religious team leaders."
> (August 27, 2004, Religion and Ethics Newsweekly)
>
>
> * On August 15, 2004 The Boston Globe reported, "this election season,
> one segment of the homeschool population aims to turn its students into
> a political force. Last February, a predominately conservative Christian
> homeschooling organization called the Home School Legal Defense
> Association (HSLDA) launched 'Generation Joshua,' a Web-based program
> that aims to teach civics by putting 4,000 homeschooled kids on the
> campaign trail. The students will be sent out in 'Student Action Teams,'
> ranging in size from 25 to 200, to do grass-roots campaigning for
> socially conservative candidates in hotly contested races throughout the
> country. Not only must these candidates be supporters of homeschooling,
> but they must also fall in line with other core values held by the
> HSLDA... One of the program's first campaign efforts in support of
> Nathan Tabor's bid for the Republican nomination for North Carolina's
> 5th Congressional District seat ended in a loss. But director Ned Ryun
> says that Generation Joshua will be campaigning for many other
> Republican politicians this fall, including President Bush."
> (August 15, 2004, The Boston Globe)
>
>
> * On July 27, 2004 The Washington Times reported, "The party of John
> Kerry and John Edwards is improving its standing with minorities, but
> losing ground to President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney among
> white evangelicals, a new survey found. Those findings are bad news for
> Democrats assembled in Boston for their national convention, because
> white evangelicals and born-again Christians far outnumber blacks and
> Hispanics combined. 'White evangelicals and born-again Christians are 26
> percent of all registered voters -- that's quite a big chunk -- and the
> survey shows they are quite happy with Republicans,' said Adam Clymer,
> political director of the University of Pennsylvania's National
> Annenberg Election Survey, which polled 3,715 registered voters
> nationwide July 1 to 21, with a margin of error of 1 percentage point."
> (July 27, 2004, The Washington Times)
>
> http://www.pluralism.org/
>
> = = =
>
> Here are more pages with information that supports my claims:
>
> http://www.pbs.org/wnet/religionandethics/week801/cover.html
>
> http://www.religionwriters.com/public/tips/050304/050304a.shtml
>
> http://www.beliefnet.com/story/145/story_14570_1.html
>
> http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/jesus/evangelicals/vote.ht
> ml
>
> http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2004-06-02-religion-gap_x.htm
>
>
>
> Chip "facts not slurs" Berlet
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Chuck0 [mailto:chuck at mutualaid.org]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 4:12 PM
> > To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org
> > Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] Re: Powerless religious right?
> >
> >
> > Chip Berlet wrote:
> >
> > > There is no evidence that the Christian Right as a social/political
> > > movement has collapsed. None. Zero. The claim is a fantasy.
> >
> > It's a fantasy in your mind, because if it were true, you'd
> > have to find
> > a different line of work to be an "expert" in. :-p
> >
> > Sorry to be a little shit, but somebody has to call Chip on
> > his bullshit.
> >
> > The evidence backs up my claim about the decline of the American
> > religious right. I even found out recently that out here in
> > Kansas City,
> > the mega-churches are moving away from political activism.
> > I'll get more
> > details and send them to the list, if anybody still cares
> > about this thread.
> >
> > Chuck "not a religious right hysteria pimp"
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