[lbo-talk] Re: Queer Theory

Yoshie Furuhashi furuhashi.1 at osu.edu
Sat Sep 25 13:09:11 PDT 2004



>[lbo-talk] Re: Queer Theory, was Re: Sex, Kink and Ick
>Art McGee amcgee at angryblackman.org
>Sat Sep 25 12:13:17 PDT 2004
<snip>
> > Take a look at Zaretsky's Capitalism, the family, and
>> personal life. Heterosexual family relations are a crucial
>> component of actually existing capitalist societies.
>
>Stupid question that keeps nagging me:
>
>Starting with the beginning of time on earth, how could life have
>developed in a non-heterosexist way, yet still lead to consistent
>life creation in order to replace those who died?
>
>Is heterosexism only about the de jure structural institutions that
>undergird the concept of the nuclear family, or does heterosexism
>exist outside of that, even in the very idea of the natural pairing
>of men and women for procreation?

Procreation, unlike heterosexism, doesn't demand that an individual should only have sex with an individual of the so-called "opposite sex" and organize a lasting relationship with the individual with whom she has sex; nor does procreation, unlike heterosexism, require that we categorize human beings into homosexuals, heterosexuals, and bisexuals.


>If procreation had no sexual pleasure connected with it, and the
>making of new humans was just another job or societal reponsibility,
>would humans be extinct by now?

The surest path to sexual pleasure for any person of either sex must be masturbation.

For many men, an action that may result in procreation -- ejaculating in a woman's vagina -- has been also associated with sexual pleasure for ages, but for women, the same action in itself seldom produces much sexual pleasure. Very few women experience vaginal orgasm, and most women experience organism only when their clitoris is stimulated in the right way.

Moreover, procreation in premodern times very often led to premature deaths of women. Women put up with frequent procreations in premodern times, at the risk of losing their own life and health, only because they didn't have the power to stop them. -- Yoshie

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