[lbo-talk] Queer Theory, was Re: Sex, Kink and Ick

Michael Pugliese michael098762001 at earthlink.net
Sat Sep 25 16:47:04 PDT 2004


On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 19:23:03 -0400, Charles Brown <cbrown at michiganlegal.org> wrote:


> CB: I don't know if you noticed, but I am explicitly saying that
> oppression
> of homosexuals, does exist, but is not in the same "order of magnitude"
> as
> male supremacy, bourgeoisdom and racism.

Julica Hermann (University of Michigan) Sociology - "Beyond Playing the Oppression Sweepstakes: Seeking A New Understanding Of Identity Politics"

From a phrase by Lani Guiner.

I have a two volume collection of SWP docs from the early 70's on gay liberation ed. by David Thorstad. The workerists in the SWP leadership said gays did not have sufficient, "social weight."

Where 'de woikers are always st8, male and brawny like those cartoons in The New Masses. No limp wrists allowed. No androgny. http://www3.sympatico.ca/moogie.robinson/buyingmarxism.html Why Aren't More Queers Buying Marxism?

An examination of what ignoring Marxist analysis has done to queer activism.

Introduction http://www3.sympatico.ca/moogie.robinson/buyingmarxism.html#Introduction Politically radical, sexually conservative: Socialism's record on queers http://www3.sympatico.ca/moogie.robinson/buyingmarxism.html# 1) Politically radical, sexually conservative: Homosexuality is a bourgeois vice: Communism's record on queer sexuality Women's issues in Marxist politics Fancy footwork: leftist organizations and queer activism

The Male Gays: Male hegemony ignores the feminisations of poverty.

The Gay Dollar: The myth that queers are predominantly wealthy creates a fear of looking at class.

Red Ties: U.S. anti-Communism and rampant homophobia make it difficult to know why people are persecuting you.

I can get it for you wholesale: the co-opting of gay visibility into the capitalist consumerism movement.

What Queer activism is losing out on by ignoring Marxist analysis 1) Critique of compulsory heterosexuality 2) Insight into the production of sexual subjects 3) Centring the experience of poor queers 4) Connection between cultural and material capital

Are Our Queer Roots Red?

-- Michael Pugliese



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