<DIV>Wait a second, I'm a fan of Kerensky and a defender of Stalin at the same time? I can be all things to all people!</DIV>
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<DIV>By the way, I'm still waiting for Trotsky's inevitable revolution in Europe that was the only thing that could save the Soviet Union from Hitler.<BR><BR><B><I>Shane Mage <shmage@pipeline.com></I></B> wrote:
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<DIV>Chris Doss has long left no doubt about his preference for the</DIV>
<DIV>"February Revolutionaries" Miliukov and Kerensky as against</DIV>
<DIV>the "October Revolutionaries," those "assholes," those</DIV>
<DIV>"irresponsible adventurists," Lenin and Trotsky. Soit. But he</DIV>
<DIV>should not be allowed to get away with blatant falsifications:</DIV>
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<DIV>1.) "land to the peasants" could not have taken place at all</DIV>
<DIV> without the "October" overthrow of his "February" favorites;</DIV>
<DIV> peasant landownership was absolutely untouched until 1929-1930;</DIV>
<DIV> the miltarized forced collectivization was not the work of</DIV>
<DIV> the "October" Bolsheviks but that of their murderer.</DIV>
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<DIV>2.) There was nothing "hypothetical" about "revolution in</DIV>
<DIV> Germany," as the Kaiser found out in less than a year.</DIV>
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<DIV>3.) The Bolsheviks took power under conditions of *imperialist*</DIV>
<DIV> war, not of civil war. "October" ended the imperialist war</DIV>
<DIV> in the East. "February" regrouped and began the civil war</DIV>
<DIV> that bled "October" white and, in the absence of successful</DIV>
<DIV> European socialist revolutions, led to the Imperial</DIV>
<DIV> restoration under Yusef.</DIV>
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<DIV>Shane Mage<BR><BR>"Thunderbolt steers all things." <SPAN></SPAN> <SPAN></SPAN> <SPAN></SPAN> <SPAN></SPAN> <SPAN></SPAN> <BR></DIV>
<DIV>Herakleitos of Ephesos, fr. 64</DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE cite type="cite">I am not a fan of the Bolshies by any means, who I think at bottom were irresponsible adventurists, gambling the fate of 200 million or so people on a hypothetical revolution in Germany as they did, but to be fair they _were_ operating under conditions of civil war. There's no way to know how much of what they did was out of ideological fervor and how much out of being backed into a corner.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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