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<DIV>Moore: That’s fair, we’ll just stick to the issues<BR><BR>O’Reilly: The
issues… alright good, now, one of the issues is you because you’ve been calling
Bush a liar on weapons of mass destruction, the senate intelligence committee,
Lord Butler’s investigation in Britain, and now the 911 Commission have all come
out and said there was no lying on the part of President Bush. Plus,
Gladimir Putin has said his intelligence told Bush there were weapons of mass
destruction. Wanna apologize to the president now or later?<BR><BR>M: He
didn’t tell the truth, he said there were weapons of mass destruction.<BR><BR>O:
Yeah, but he didn’t lie, he was misinformed by - all of those investigations
come to the same conclusion, that’s not a lie.<BR><BR>M: uh huh, so in other
words if I told you right now that nothing was going on down here on the
stage…<BR><BR>O: That would be a lie because we could see that wasn’t the
truth<BR><BR>M: Well, I’d have to turn around to see it, and then I would
realize, oh, Bill, I just told you something that wasn’t true… actually it’s
president Bush that needs to apologize to the nation for telling an entire
country that there were weapons of mass destruction, that they had evidence of
this, and that there was some sort of connection between Saddam Hussein and
September 11th, and he used that as a – <BR><BR>O: Ok, He never said that, but
back to the other thing, if you, if Michael Moore is president – <BR><BR>M: I
thought you said you saw the movie, I show all that in the movie<BR><BR>O: Which
may happen if Hollywood, yeah, OK, fine – <BR><BR>M: But that was your question
– <BR><BR>O: Just the issues. You’ve got three separate investigations
plus the president of Russia all saying… British intelligence, US intelligence,
Russian intelligence, told the president there were weapons of mass destruction,
you say, “he lied.” This is not a lie if you believe it to be true, now he
may have made a mistake, which is obvious – <BR><BR>M: Well, that’s almost
pathological – I mean, many criminals believe what they say is true, they could
pass a lie detector test – <BR><BR>O: Alright, now you’re dancing around a
question – <BR><BR>M: No I’m not, there’s no dancing<BR><BR>O: He didn’t lie
<BR><BR>M: He said something that wasn’t true<BR><BR>O: Based upon bad
information given to him by legitimate sources<BR><BR>M: Now you know that they
went to the CIA, Cheney went to the CIA, they wanted that information, they
wouldn’t listen to anybody<BR><BR>O: They wouldn’t go by Russian intelligence
and Blair’s intelligence too<BR><BR>M: His own people told him, I mean he went
to Richard Clarke the day after September 11th and said “What you got on Iraq?”
and Richard Clarke’s going “Oh well this wasn’t Iraq that did this sir, this was
Al Qaeda.”<BR><BR>O: You’re diverting the issue…did you read Woodward’s
book?<BR><BR>M: No, I haven’t read his book.<BR><BR>O: Woodward’s a good
reporter, right? Good guy, you know who he is right?<BR><BR>M: I know who
he is.<BR><BR>O: Ok, he says in his book George Tenet looked the president in
the eye, like how I am looking you in the eye right now and said “President,
weapons of mass destruction are a quote, end quote, “slam dunk” if you’re the
president, you ignore all that?<BR><BR>M: Yeah, I would say that the CIA had
done a pretty poor job.<BR><BR>O: I agree. The lieutenant was
fired.<BR><BR>M: Yeah, but not before they took us to war based on his
intelligence. This is a man who ran the CIA, a CIA that was so poorly
organized and run that it wouldn’t communicate with the FBI before September
11th and as a result in part we didn’t have a very good intelligence system set
up before September 11th<BR><BR>O: Nobody disputes that<BR><BR>M: Ok, so he
screws up September 11th. Why would you then listen to him, he says this
is a “slam dunk” and your going to go to war.<BR><BR>O: You’ve got MI-6 and
Russian intelligence because they’re all saying the same thing that’s why.
You’re not going to apologize to Bush, you are going to continue to call him a
liar.<BR><BR>M: Oh, he lied to the nation, Bill, I can’t think of a worse thing
to do for a president to lie to a country to take them to war, I mean, I don’t
know a worse – <BR><BR>O: It wasn’t a lie<BR><BR>M: He did not tell the truth,
what do you call that?<BR><BR>O: I call that bad information, acting on bad
information – not a lie<BR><BR>M: A seven year old can get away with that –
<BR><BR>O: Alright, your turn to ask me a question—<BR><BR>M: ‘Mom and Dad it
was just bad information’—<BR><BR>O: I’m not going to get you to admit it wasn’t
a lie, go ahead<BR><BR>M: It was a lie, and now, which leads us to my
question<BR><BR>O: OK<BR><BR>M: Over 900 of our brave soldiers are dead.
What do you say to their parents? <BR><BR>O: What do I say to their
parents? I say what every patriotic American would say. We are proud of
your sons and daughters. They answered the call that their country gave
them. We respect them and we feel terrible that they were
killed.<BR><BR>M: And, but what were they killed for?<BR><BR>O: They were
removing a brutal dictator who himself killed hundreds of thousands of
people<BR><BR>M: Um, but that was not the reason that was given to them to go to
war, to remove a brutal dictator<BR><BR>O: Well we’re back to the weapons of
mass destruction<BR><BR>M: But that was the reason<BR><BR>O: The weapons of mass
destruction<BR><BR>M: That we were told we were under some sort of imminent
threat<BR><BR>O: That’s right<BR><BR>M: And there was no threat, was
there?<BR><BR>O: It was a mistake<BR><BR>M: Oh, just a mistake, and that’s what
you tell all the parents with a deceased child, “We’re sorry.” I don’t
think that is good enough.<BR><BR>O: I don’t think its good enough either for
those parents <BR><BR>M: So we agree on that <BR><BR>O: but that is the
historical nature of what happened<BR><BR>M: Bill, if I made a mistake and I
said something or did something as a result of my mistake but it resulted in the
death of your child, how would you feel towards me?<BR><BR>O: It depends on
whether the mistake was unintentional<BR><BR>M: No, not intentional, it was a
mistake<BR><BR>O: Then if it was an unintentional mistake I cannot hold you
morally responsible for that<BR><BR>M: Really, I’m driving down the road and I
hit your child and your child is dead<BR><BR>O: If it were unintentional and you
weren’t impaired or anything like that<BR><BR>M: So that’s all it is, if it was
alcohol, even though it was a mistake – how would you feel towards me<BR><BR>O:
Ok, now we are wandering<BR><BR>M: No, but my point is – <BR><BR>O: I saw what
your point is and I answered your question<BR><BR>M: But why? What did
they die for?<BR><BR>O: They died to remove a brutal dictator who had killed
hundreds of thousands of people – <BR><BR>M: No, that was not the reason –
<BR><BR>O: That’s what they died for<BR><BR>M: -they were given – <BR><BR>O: The
weapons of mass destruction was a mistake<BR><BR>M: Well there were 30 other
brutal dictators in this world – <BR><BR>O: Alright, I’ve got anther
question—<BR><BR>M: Would you sacrifice—just finish on this. Would you
sacrifice your child to remove one of the other 30 brutal dictators on this
planet?<BR><BR>O: Depends what the circumstances were.<BR><BR>M: You would
sacrifice your child?<BR><BR>O: I would sacrifice myself—I’m not talking for any
children—to remove the Taliban. Would you?<BR><BR>M: Uh
huh.<BR><BR></DIV></BODY></HTML>