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<DIV>O: Would you? That’s my next question. Would you sacrifice yourself to
remove the Taliban?<BR><BR>M: I would be willing to sacrifice my life to track
down the people that killed 3,000 people on our soil.<BR><BR>O: Al Qeada was
given refuge by the Taliban.<BR><BR>M: But we didn’t go after them—did
we?<BR><BR>O: We removed the Taliban and killed three quarters of Al
Qeada.<BR><BR>M: That’s why the Taliban are still killing our soldiers
there.<BR><BR>O: OK, well look you cant kill everybody. You wouldn’t have
invaded Afghanistan—you wouldn’t have invaded Afghanistan, would you?<BR><BR>M:
No, I would have gone after the man that killed 3,000 people.<BR><BR>O:
How?<BR><BR>M: As Richard Clarke says, our special forces were prohibited for
two months from going to the area that we believed Osama was—<BR><BR>O: Why was
that?<BR><BR>M: That’s my question.<BR><BR>O: Because Pakistan didn’t want its
territory of sovereignty violated.<BR><BR>M: Not his was in Afghanistan, on the
border, we didn’t go there. He got a two month head start.<BR><BR>O: Alright,
you would not have removed the Taliban. You would not have removed that
government?<BR><BR>M: No, unless it is a threat to us.<BR><BR>O: Any government?
Hitler, in Germany, not a threat to us the beginning but over there executing
people all day long—you would have let him go? <BR><BR>M: That’s not true.
Hitler with Japan, attacked the United States.<BR><BR>O: Before—from 33-until 41
he wasn’t an imminent threat to the United States.<BR><BR>M: There’s a lot of
things we should have done.<BR><BR>O: You wouldn’t have removed him.<BR><BR>M: I
wouldn’t have even allowed him to come to power.<BR><BR>O: That was a preemption
from Michael Moore—you would have invaded.<BR><BR>M: If we’d done our job, you
want to get into to talking about what happened before WWI, woah, I’m trying to
stop this war right now.<BR><BR>O: I know you are but—<BR><BR>M: Are you against
that? Stopping this war?<BR><BR>O: No we cannot leave Iraq right now, we have
to—<BR><BR>M: So you would sacrifice your child to secure Fallujah? I want to
hear you say that.<BR><BR>O: I would sacrifice myself—<BR><BR>M: Your child—Its
Bush sending the children there.<BR><BR>O: I would sacrifice myself.<BR><BR>M:
You and I don’t go to war, because we’re too old—<BR><BR>O: Because if we back
down, there will be more deaths and you know it.<BR><BR>M: Say ‘I Bill O’Reilly
would sacrifice my child to secure Fallujah’<BR><BR>O: I’m not going to say what
you say, you’re a, that’s ridiculous<BR><BR>M: You don’t believe that. Why
should Bush sacrifice the children of people across America for this?<BR><BR>O:
Look it’s a worldwide terrorism—I know that escapes you—<BR><BR>M: Wait a
minute, terrorism? Iraq?<BR><BR>O: Yes. There are terrorist in Iraq.<BR><BR>M:
Oh really? So Iraq now is responsible for the terrorism here?<BR><BR>O: Iraq
aided terrorist—don’t you know anything about any of that?<BR><BR>M: So you’re
saying Iraq is responsible for what?<BR><BR>O: I’m saying that Saddam Hussein
aided all day long.<BR><BR>M: You’re not going to get me to defend Saddam
Hussein.<BR><BR>O: I’m not? You’re his biggest defender in the media.<BR><BR>M:
Now come on.<BR><BR>O: Look, if you were running he would still be sitting
there.<BR><BR>M: How do you know that?<BR><BR>O: If you were running the
country, he’d still be sitting there.<BR><BR>M: How do you know that?<BR><BR>O:
You wouldn’t have removed him.<BR><BR>M: Look let me tell you something in the
1990s look at all the brutal dictators that were removed. Things were done, you
take any of a number of countries whether its Eastern Europe, the people rose
up. South Africa the whole world boycotted---<BR><BR>O: When Reagan was building
up the arms, you were against that.<BR><BR>M: And the dictators were gone.
Building up the arms did not cause the fall of Eastern Europe.<BR><BR>O: Of
course it did, it bankrupted the Soviet Union and then it collapsed.<BR><BR>M:
The people rose up.<BR><BR>O: why? Because they went bankrupt.<BR><BR>M: the
same way we did in our country, the way we had our revolution. People rose
up—<BR><BR>O: Alright alright.<BR><BR>M:--that’s how you, let me ask you this
question.<BR><BR>O: One more.<BR><BR>M: How do you deliver democracy to a
country? You don’t do it down the barrel of a gun. That’s not how you deliver
it.<BR><BR>O: You give the people some kind of self-determination, which they
never would have had under Saddam—<BR><BR>M: Why didn’t they rise up?<BR><BR>O:
Because they couldn’t, it was a Gestapo-led place where they got their heads cut
off—<BR><BR>M: well that’s true in many countries throughout the
world__<BR><BR>O: It is, it’s a shame—<BR><BR>M:--and you know what people have
done, they’ve risen up. You can do it in a number of ways . You can do it
our way through a violent revolution, which we won, the French did it that way.
You can do it by boycotting South Africa, they overthrew the dictator there.
There’s many ways— <BR><BR>O: I’m glad we’ve had this discussion because it just
shows you that I see the world my way, you see the world your way, alright—and
the audience is watching us here and they can decide who is right and who is
wrong and that’s the fair way to do it. Right?<BR><BR>M: Right, I would not
sacrifice my child to secure Fallujah and you would?<BR><BR>O: I would sacrifice
myself.<BR><BR>M: You wouldn’t send another child, another parents child to
Fallujah, would you? You would sacrifice your life to secure Fallujah?
<BR><BR>O: I would.<BR><BR>M: Can we sign him up? Can we sign him up right
now?<BR><BR>O: That’s right. <BR><BR>M: Where’s the recruiter?<BR><BR>O: You’d
love to get rid of me.<BR><BR>M: No I don’t want—I want you to live. I want you
to live.<BR><BR>O: I appreciate that. Michael Moore everybody. There he
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