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<DIV>Well, I'm an unabashed pro free-market advocate. And I also think this is an important issue. The logic of the position you take -- perhaps you would accept this -- is that all other issues must be subordinated to, and deferred until after, whatever it takes so that the very worst things are stopped, whatever those are. People starving say. We shouldn't worry about women's equality or gay liberation or freedom of speech or fredom to practice unusual sexualities any of that distraction until the worst is fixed. Which means, of course, we cannot do anything about those distractions for the rest of our lives and probably through those of our great-grandchildren. Sigh:</DIV>
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<DIV>From Brecht's To Those Born Later, which gives me my handle, An die Nachgeborenen:</DIV>
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<DIV> Truly, I live in dark times!<BR> <BR> The guileless word is folly. A smooth<BR> <BR>
forehead<BR> <BR> Suggests insensitivity. The man who laughs<BR> <BR> Has simply not yet
heard<BR> <BR> The terrible news.What kind of times are<BR> <BR> they,
when<BR> <BR> A talk about trees is almost a crime<BR> <BR> Because it implies silence about so many
<BR> <BR> horrors?<BR> <BR> That man there calmly crossing the
street<BR> <BR> Is already perhaps beyond the reach of his<BR> <BR>
friends<BR> <BR> Who are in need?It is true I still earn my<BR> <BR>
keep<BR> <BR> But, believe me, that is only an accident.<BR> <BR>
Nothing<BR> <BR> I do gives me the right to eat my fill.<BR> <BR> By chance I´ve been spared. (If my
luck<BR> <BR> breaks, I am lost.)They say to me: Eat<BR>and<BR> <BR> drink! Be glad you have
it!<BR> <BR> But how can I eat and drink if I snatch what<BR> <BR> I
eat<BR> <BR> From the starving, and<BR> <BR> My glass of water belongs to one dying
of<BR> <BR> thirst?<BR> <BR> And yet I eat and drink.<BR> </DIV>
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<DIV> jks<BR><BR><B><I>frank scott <frank@marin.cc.ca.us></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">this debate is interesting for what isn't being said about "free"<BR>markets, and "free" marketing...we seem to have some closet and not so<BR>closet pro-market folks here, arguing sexual freedom, and some market<BR>controllers there, suppressing all the way...really?<BR><BR>so, in this society of wonderful laws for people who can afford them ,<BR>if i have the money, i can get housing, dildoes, hotel rooms, vibrators,<BR>young girls or boys, pet food and other wonderful consumables, and<BR>that makes me a libertine, and if you haven't the money , you can't get<BR>housing, education , nor any of that other stuff, and that makes you ,<BR>um, lazy, shiftless, welfare prone, anti-sex and anti-free market ?<BR><BR>that may seem a stretch, but if it's so damned important to be able to<BR>buy sex toys, in a depraved environment in which dogs and cats eat and<BR>quite a few people don't, who
is on what side of which issue of freedom?<BR>and where does that freedom occur? in our heads? up our asses? or in<BR>some other part of the material world that isn't under discussion here?<BR><BR>fs<BR><BR>___________________________________<BR>http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/mailman/listinfo/lbo-talk<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><p>__________________________________________________<br>Do You Yahoo!?<br>Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around <br>http://mail.yahoo.com