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<div><font face="Lucida Grande" size="-4" color="#000000">snit snat
snitilicious at tampabay.rr.com, Tue Aug 17 12:31:40 PDT
2004</font>:</div>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font face="Lucida Grande" size="-4"
color="#000000">At 02:53 PM 8/17/2004, Yoshie Furuhashi wrote:<br>
>>There are immediate things that need to be done. People need
affordable<br>
>>childcare, for instance. I see all kinds of churches offering
inexpensive<br>
>>child care and free summer bible camps. Well...? Why not? Why
let the<br>
>>dead guy on a stick worshippers monopolize this territory?
(And it sure<br>
>>as shit doesn't have to be a full-time fucking job. That
is one thing<br>
>>that annoys me about left workerism: the insistence that you
give over</font></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font face="Lucida Grande" size="-4"
color="#000000">>>your entire life to the movement, 24/7
slavishly "organizing". Please.)</font></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font face="Lucida Grande" size="-4"
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>The obstacle is that secular leftists in the USA, on the average,
have</font></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font face="Lucida Grande" size="-4"
color="#000000">>become lazier, stingier, and more pie-in-the-sky
than religious leftists.<br>
<br>
Dennis Redmond wrote:</font></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font face="Lucida Grande" size="-4"
color="#000000"> > The US Left continues to lead the world in
its ability to generate<br>
> circular firing squads.<br>
<br>
Carrol Cox wrote:<br>
Are you or are you not a member of that firing squad?</font><br>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite><font face="Lucida Grande" size="-4"
color="#000000">If not, then the people you criticize are not members
of the left, for if they are, then you are firing at them, i.e. are a
member of the firing squad.</font></blockquote>
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<div><font face="Lucida Grande" size="-4" color="#000000">You can't
create anything on the left (or on any other point on the political
spectrum) by spending neither time nor money -- that is just a
fact.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Lucida Grande" size="-4" color="#000000">How did Hugo
Chávez win a landslide victory? Luckily, oil prices have gone
up, and he, already holding the levers of state power, could spend
money (take that, capitalists!), and the money was well-spent by
tireless Bolivarian organizers: e.g.,</font></div>
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<div><font face="Lucida Grande" size="-4" color="#000000">"Ms.
[Evelyn] Uzcanga's role has been to spend up to 15 hours a day
tramping along narrow passageways between ramshackle homes, talking to
people, looking for voters. With her son Daniel - who is 5 and,
coincidentally, somewhat resembles the chunky president - at her side,
she would peer into doors and stop by shops, pulling aside people and
peppering them with questions" (Juan Forero, "Chávez
Loyalists Troll Venezuelan Barrios for the Undecided,"
<em>New York Times</em>, <a
href="http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/15/international/americas/1<span
></span>5venezuela.ready.html">August 15,
2004</a>).</font></div>
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<div><font face="Lucida Grande" size="-4" color="#000000">Leftists in
the USA are light years behind leftists in Venezuela; the latter are
defending what they have already won and are poised to winning more;
the former, first and foremost, need to create the ranks of organizers
and activists willing to spend time and money organizing to break
through "the corrupt two-party system favoured by the oligarchy"
(Tariq Ali, "The Importance of Hugo Chávez: Why He Crushed the
Oligarchs," <em>CounterPunch</em>, <a
href="http://counterpunch.org/tariq08162004.html">August
16, 2004</a>).</font></div>
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<div><font face="Lucida Grande" size="-4" color="#000000">BTW, anyone
who has ever visited Columbus, OH knows that my partner, a leftist who
is a Presbyterian, union man, and public-sector worker, is far more
generous with his time and money than I am. Then, he does more
housework than I do, too. Behind every female leftist there is a
good man (or woman). :-)</font></div>
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<div><font face="Lucida Grande" size="-4"
color="#000000">Yoshie</font></div>
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